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  1. TheMayor

    TheMayor Nine Time F1 World Champ
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    I just feel sorry for unemployed hot babes. No one ever thinks of what happens to them! :)
     
  2. daytona355

    daytona355 F1 World Champ
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    I do.... I spend a lot of money on washed up hot babes that need to dance to feed themselves.... you know that! I bet they are counting the days till the 13th February at Crazy Horse and Sapphires!
     
  3. Sig. Roma

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    A work mate's partner was a grid girl for a few years before the ban, and she lost her best paying job. Thank you political correctness.
     
  4. tifosi12

    tifosi12 Four Time F1 World Champ
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    Hey, it's my prerogative to believe in the tooth fairy. Hope dies last.
     
  5. daytona355

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    Lucky guy!
     
  6. Lotaz

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    I never thought it stood a chance to begin with...............
     
  7. Daryl

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    Wait a second. Hang on. My birthday is February 13th. Is there something I should know about here?
     
  8. daytona355

    daytona355 F1 World Champ
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    Hit Vegas and find out mate! I’m coming to town!
     
  9. Dino2010

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    Liberty is the worst thing that could happen to F1. It can only get better now.
    Also, fire the complete pro-Mercedes FIA idiots/crooks, call them whatever you like, and start over from scratch.
     
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  10. TheMayor

    TheMayor Nine Time F1 World Champ
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    The sport needs to rethink itself. Ignore political correctness and
    concentrate on entertainment.

    Give us fire breathing dragons that make our ears bleed and blow up in fantastic (notice “fan” in that word) ways and don’t penalize teams if they do so. Invite “risk vs reward”.

    Make the rules less restrictive to invite engineering creativity.

    Get rid of grid penalties. Take constructor points away instead if you want to penalize someone. People paid Tower the drivers drive and perhaps win. Putting then back for something they didn’t do is “un-fanfriendly”.

    Have the top 6 qualifiers get points for their positions but have them line up randomly at the start. There’s too many races that are decided in the first corner. Mix it up.

    I’m sure there’s lots of good ideas out there. Someone needs to get their butts in gear.
     
  11. Ferrari 308 GTB

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    Talking of butts ..don't forget to bring back them Grid Girls too:D
     
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  12. Jack-the-lad

    Jack-the-lad Six Time F1 World Champ
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    Point for fastest lap. Point for most laps led.
    Agree 100% about stupid penalties that punish the drivers.

    As I've been saying for years:

    More tire.
    More power.
    More fuel.
    More live testing.
    Less aero.
    Less cost by reducing dependency on native technology.
    And stop with the silly artificial drama created by stupid compulsory tire rules.
     
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  13. Dino2010

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  14. Sig. Roma

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    I asked him to post her picture on the thread, and he said no. She wants to be paid.
     
  15. Ferrari 308 GTB

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    I think we could raise a suitable amount for her :D
     
  16. tifosi12

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    This

    Especially the "Ignore political correctness and concentrate on entertainment" part.

    Is Las Vegas PC? Hell no! And therefore it makes good money.
     
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  17. Jack-the-lad

    Jack-the-lad Six Time F1 World Champ
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    I hate to say it, but an American company was never going to be the best owner of F1, especially an American company which, as far as I know, doesn't have much of an international footprint.
     
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  18. spirot

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    The critical fault in F-1 is its quest for more and more money as a business vs. a sport. I think the teams can earn good money - and still be effective, but the issue is now that they all want to be Billionaires...and that is a problem. People are getting paid $100M as a driver over 3-4 years? that is crazy. In 1982 - Lauda was paid $2M ... first driver ever for a 2 year contract... with performance clauses... today that is the salary for a technical director... its crazy. Indy car teams function on 1/8th the budget and produce just as good racing. But we are never going to erase the greed in F-1. so I fear it will be a slow free fall into oblivion.

    as for the "show" ... I think that is the other thing that went wrong.. .its a sport - between man and machine.. .not a show. but I agree the machines need to be more aggressive and dare I say it - more dangerous. faster, harder to control etc.. and less emphasis on bans and penalties.

    Finally if Liberty want to divest of F-1 I don't know who will pay $10B or more for it... but if there are anyone interested I think their address will be in China - Shanghai or Hong Kong... or perhaps Russia. if that happens look for F-1 to be focused on being uber exclusive - high end excess... but little in the way of racing and technical innovation.

    Technical innovation is the main thing missing from F-1. when F-1 was the pinnacle of racing - we had great races... however WSC is much better in terms of innovation and technology - and have really very good drivers & Races ... for a fraction of the cost of F-1. No free TV = No more sponsors... = no F1.
     
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  19. johnk...

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    He'll probably buy it back for 1/4 what he sold it for.
     
  20. Jack-the-lad

    Jack-the-lad Six Time F1 World Champ
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    "Technical innovation" isn't what makes F1 appealing to fans. Speed is. F1's ridiculous technical regulations have strangled it. When you have to use artifices like mandatory pits stops, DRS and tire "strategy" in an attempt to make it exciting, you've lost.

    F1 needn't be the pinnacle of tech innovation. Let another series be that. But it needs to be the pinnacle of speed and excitement.
     
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  21. DF1

    DF1 Two Time F1 World Champ

    Exactly - paywall will limit exposure. Not smart in the long run with the sport being less interesting and facing a crisis of identity moving forward into the E-mobility future.
     
  22. spirot

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    Too bad we can’t agree on F-1 either!

    I believe technical innovation toe be critical the best drivers in the best cars driving the fastest is what F1 needs to be again. From 1950 to 1994 F-1 was the best in all categories then max and Bernie got greedy


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  23. daytona355

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    I’m used to paying pretty girls..... but I want to be certain it worth paying for.... how hot out of 10 is she?
     
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  24. Isobel

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    Now I agree ;).
    Techno is fine but not an absolute. I have no problem with normally aspirated power and a severe limitation on wing designs, believe they could be as quick as what we have now.
     
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  25. 09Scuderia

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    Only one way to settle this....pics!


     
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