I really don't like the idea of anyone pointing a gun at me, I twitch a little every time I see these prats.
1. One thing that struck me in the video was, with the exception of the 70+mph vehicle they pulled over, it looked like the others they pulled over were not unsafe. They might have been traveling over the limit put it looked like they were driving safe. 2. Does anyone know if these devices are safe if pointed at your eyes?
Valentine 1 will detect it, but by the time you recognize it, it's usually too late. I believe that if you're the trailing car and the car in front of you is "shot" at, you'll have time to slow down by the time he points the gun at you. However, if the gun is pointed at you, you'll already be measured by the time the Valentine goes off. If anyone knows better, please chime in.
no laser points at your eyes are safe. But they are pointing it at your car not your eyes, and the distance is safe enough that if it hits your eyes, which you can't see it anyway, will not damage them at all.
*I think* Lidar beam's are very precise (no scatter). I think you'd be very lucky if you picked it up when it wasn't being shot directly at you, even if it's the car directly in front of/next to you.
This long ago stoped being about safety, now it is all about revenue. It's an IR laser with a relatively wide beam... I frankly have no friggin idea how they got past ClassIIIb laser requirements, which basically classify all IR lasers as non-eyesafe, since you cannot 'blink and look away'. Most GLASS windshields will absorb the IR spectra, but lexan will not. Scatter is also not accounted for. the unregulated ClassIIIb laser being pointed at my eyes is by far more dangerous than me speeding!
My escorts [3 of them in each car] have been going crazy the last few days..... You don't see these LIDARS very well, and I am getting stray signals from very far away...like he's shooting the street first then brings it up to the plates.... can only run fast on the freeways now...but that makes sense anyway. oly over speedlimit on highways town roads by 5mph usually.
Well, I'm wondering why some industrious attorney (I know it would be hard to find one that would like to get involved a "newsworthy" case) doesn't look into this further? I wonder if if would be ok for me to point a laser device back at an officer?
oh that would be interesting shooting a laser back at the officer. I think that's fair. Assuming that you can tell 600+ft away that a lidar is being shot at you.
ROFL @ "shooting a laser at the officer"....anything flashy pointed at a cop is asking for BIG trouble---you could potentially get shot...and no, not with a LIDAR or radar gun. Furthermore, that's what LASER JAMMERS are for! when the signal goes back to the boys in blue, it's almost as scrambled as the eggs they eat for breakfast! however, if you're caught with a laser jammer, it's a couple nights in the slammer last time I heard. Can anyone confirm this or is it just another 'cop' rumor?
a few point for those new to this subject 1. both bay area CHP AND city cops use laser (Santa Clara PD motorcicle patrol has them, not sure about automotive ones) 2. once laser hits you and V1 goes off, they already got you 3. AL G8 is a good investment: http://www.guysoflidar.com/march-2007/laser-jammer-test.html 4. Some cars have active cruise control which sets off your V1 laser 5. Famous 101 billboard sets of V1 laser
cop rumor. laser jammer is an INFRACTION for which you get written a ticket. its not even a mis-demeanor. from CVC: 28150. (a) No vehicle shall be equipped with any device that is designed for, or is capable of, jamming, scrambling, neutralizing, disabling, or otherwise interfering with radar, laser, or any other electronic device used by a law enforcement agency to measure the speed of moving objects. (b) No person shall use, buy, possess, manufacture, sell, or otherwise distribute any device that is designed for jamming, scrambling, neutralizing, disabling, or otherwise interfering with radar, laser, or any other electronic device used by a law enforcement agency to measure the speed of moving objects. (c) Except as provided in subdivision (d), a violation of subdivision (a) or (b) is an infraction. (d) When a person possesses four or more devices in violation of subdivision (b), the person is guilty of a misdemeanor. (e) Notwithstanding any other provision of law, a person who has a valid federal license for operating the devices described in this section may transport one or more of those devices if the license is carried in the vehicle transporting the device at all times when the device is being transported.
My Valentine has saved my life many times with the laser. I keep it on all bogeys and usually I'll pick up when they're shooting cars way ahead of me with the lasers and radars. If the cops really want to reduce traffic fatalities, start providing better driver education at all levels for young and old drivers and have them take it in inglish! How can you give out licences to someone who cannot even read the street signs. And before anyone calls me racist , my parents are Cubans who became American citizens.
not only that, but we also need to get all the ****ty cars of the roads. low riders, trucks with 30ft ground clearance, cars where tire pressure never been checked, cars with modified safety components (brakes, wheels, etc.). i really like how germans approach the issue with TUV agency. as long as its TUV approved, it can go on your car.
These posts are contradictory. Does anyone know for a fact whether Valentine 1 will pick up lidar when it's shot at a car near you?
Absolutely not! Well... not unless you are traveling next to the car getting hit and the distance between the two cars is a foot or two. (and the other car is getting hit in the headlight closest to your car).
V1 will 'pick up' a laser signal--however, since it's a LASER (think photons), it travels at the speed of light and therefore it is almost always too late for you to 'slow down' before the cop gets the signal. However with radio waves (aka a regular radar gun), there is a slight delay in the signal going back to the device (the radar gun) and therefore it gives you a 'little' hope of slowing down slightly before the actual signal goes back to the cop--then again, the V1 is good if you're going 10-15 mph over; if you're doing 100+mph, you're gonna get tagged (plus the cop can hear/see you going at a 'much' faster rate than traffic) anyway. The moral of the lesson is don't do 100+mph when a cop is pointing a radar gun OR LIDAR at your car! lol
(to clarify further) yes, V1 will pick up laser signal when YOUR car is getting targeted. V1 WILL NOT pick up laser signal if some other car on the road is getting targeted i cant stress this enough: AL G8!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! http://www.antilaser.info/en_products.htm
sindo308qv states that his V1 picks up when they're shooting cars way ahead of him. That's a far cry from a foot or two. So, are you saying that sindo's assertion is not possible?
I love love to see a massive nationwide lawsuit frying the cities guilty of using LIDAR guns for their revenue generation. Traffic safety my rear end. Jam the gun, eat the $99 infraction bail rather than a point on the driving record, courtroom BS plus taxes...sounds like the better deal to me. If there was a hack that prevents the LIDAR beam from returning to the gun, that would be even better. If you and I do it, it's called racketeering and extortion. When cops do it, it's called "law enforcement"
yes that is exactly what i am saying. of course my info is based on lots of hours spent reading http://www.radardetector.net/ forum which i highly recommend to anybody interested in the subject.
