Life on Mars & organized religion

I've always wanted to see a cartoon of an evangelical-type asking a Martian or any other alien: "Have you accepted Jesus Christ as your personal lord & savior?"
Organized religion has resisted and suppressed when possible anything that puts a chink in their dogma, from Gallileo to Darwin, even as most recently as last month where the Georgia Dept of Education was trying to excise the word 'evolution" from school texts and replace with "biological changes over time." Fortunately, more intelligent-types prevailed.

 

Man did not evolve. Technology did, at an astounding rate!

Isnt it true that many scientists think that mars was once very much like earth currently is? There is evidence that the water frozen at its poles once were liquid many many years ago.
Hypothetically, would mars have been more likely to support life that so much longer before earth? Rember that for 2 billion years, the only form of life on earth was simple prokaryotic cells without nuclei. I think that the probablility of anything besides simple organisms.

 

This thread is BLASPHEMY... REPENT and send me a check for $1000(no, I won't use it to save for an F-car, I promise )

 

Maybe so, but I haven't heard about any SCUDS headed toward the Vatican in a long, long time.

DL

 

Could be heresay, who knows. On the other hand, Israel has been fighting for its' very life for too many years to count. I assume you take a minute or two (now and then) to watch the news?

DL

 

Hmmm, funny, I don't remember them being purple. Blue, clear, but no purple...

Dr "I can see my belly button" Tax

 

"the Georgia Dept of Education was trying to excise the word 'evolution" from school texts and replace with "biological changes over time."

Fortunately, more intelligent-types prevailed when Georgia agreed to keep the term "evolution" in exchange for scientist changeing the word "dinosaurs" ......to "Jesus Horses"

 

SNL! Laughed my arse off!

 

I'm not religious (agnostic actually), but a theoretical argument like this is just so easy to turn right back on the originator that I can't help it.

What will the atheists do if *intelligent* life is encountered and they *also* worship messianic figures who sacrificed for "their sins"?

Will the atheists be willing to eat crow? Somehow I doubt it. Works both ways guys, and there are plenty of hypocrites on both sides. I always get a kick out of it when atheists/agnostics get on the high horse and pretend to be so superior to "them religious types" when no one really has any clue or any shred of evidence either way.

For all any of us know there COULD be some supreme entity somewhere generating influence. Science can barely figure out how OUR universe and its basic dimensions function on a theoretical level, let alone seriously conjecture about what might lie beyond it!

 

Throw another kink into it. What if that messianic figure has a name similar to Jesus. What if parts of their religion match up with some religion on earth.

Oh...that would screw my mind over...

 

That could happen... I read a great sci-fi short once (Assimov maybe, but maybe not), where a mission to a remote star that had gone nova yielded a remarkable find - the remains of a civilization. Turns out that their star had gone nova at a time when it's dying light would be viewable on Earth during the time of Jesus' birth. The archaeologists find records among the alien ruins indicating that they were accepting the death of their star (and of their race) as an honorable sacrifice so that some momentus event could happen far in the future (since light takes a while to travel massive distances).

I thought that was a tremendously interesting idea and it actually *is* within the realms of possibility for something like that to someday happen. An open mind is always key.

 

Well I have thought about this before. I believe in GOD. I also believe that he created everything. I do think that there is a possibility that there is other physical life somewere out there. After all there are angels and demons, right. They aren't human. We do have animals, fish, different oragnisms, plants, loads and loads of living things here on earth. So why not elsewere? If there is life elsewere in, I truely feel that GOD in his infinite wizdom keeps us apart. How do you think we would get along with a different planet, yet alone a different species, when we can't even get along among ourselves on this planet. What makes you think that we will even be the dominant ones? Geeeee maybe that is why GOD got rid of the dinosaurs before he put us here. What ever the case, if life is found to exist/ed else were, it will only conferm to a higher extent that GOD exists. This is just soooooo easy, even in the Bible, the very first line, Genesis 1:1 "1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth." Like Duuuuuhhhhh.

 

Cursory replies would likely be similar to these

 

Quote: What will the atheists do if *intelligent* life is encountered and they *also* worship messianic figures who sacrificed for "their sins"? Will the atheists be willing to eat crow? Somehow I doubt it. Works both ways guys, and there are plenty of hypocrites on both sides. I always get a kick out of it when atheists/agnostics get on the high horse and pretend to be so superior to "them religious types" when no one really has any clue or any shred of evidence either way. [/QUOTE]

Pull-eaze, give us a break.....This "sacrificed for their sins" mind-set is western man's philosophy. When I see other mammals like cats, dogs, dolphins & whales building little shrines to J.C. will I reconsider my views. Think about why every religion on earth has their differences with other faiths and then maybe you will realize that gods and religions are ALL man-made! Religion has evolved into a mental cancer for people with no future and a lot of time on their hands. What else could explain for example Sunni & Shiite Muslims killing each other such as in Tuesdays bombings in the Mid-East?? You don't see athiests killng each other over theology do you?

 

Actually, it is logicaly impossible to prove a neagtive: so anyone who makes such statements is not based in logic or facts.

But the proof of whether one or more gods exist must be left to the believers! not to the disbelievers to prove otherwise.

Perhaps you are confused. Atheists belive that one or more gods do not exist, Agnostics don't think there is enough information to make a decision, and Scientists look at the available evidence and make statements about science things. Atheist does not mean scientist nor vice versa. Leave the decisions to those who are skilled in the art, and those who have looked at the evidence.

 

Doesn't the scientific community use what's known as a "double-blind" test to determine the cause & effect of a variable on something that is "known' or constant? Try this...let's say God takes a sabbatical. Goes for a month long cruise of the Med on Paul Allen's little yacht. Out of the office and can't make any decisions or actions against mankind for a whole month. We WILL STILL SEE bad things happening to good people AND good things happening to bad people (like wife-beating or cheating sports figures getting multi-million dollar signing bonuses). There will still be church busses running off of the interstates into bridge pilings and lightning hitting steeples and burning down churches. "God(s)" doesn't/don't change things, it's the thought of god(s) that changes people. God is a placebo and a metaphor all rolled into one. If God him or herself actually had any power, don't 'cha think for a moment he/she/it would stop these global battles between faiths ( and brothers)?

 

Sure, that is one of the biggest indication that its all made up by men.

There is evidence for both blue whales and for bacteria. But, no blue whales don't know bacteria exist, and so don't care.