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  1. Cavallino Motors

    Cavallino Motors F1 World Champ
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    May 31, 2001
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    Martin W.
    Had this meaningfull conversation on his 348TS that had a reserve met at $40,000. Deal never went through. Now he tells me the car is worth $ 70,000

    "Like You Don't know" what you are talking about :)

    here is the conversation, starts on the bottom, sorry.

    This guy is a class act.



    FUKK OFF THEN AS$HOLE. (changed for content)


    >From: <sales@theFerrariCollection.com>
    >Reply-To: <sales@theFerrariCollection.com>
    >To: "like you" <likeyoudontknow@hotmail.com>
    >Subject: Re: 348TS
    >Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 14:31:40 -0400
    >
    >what upgrades, what is the general history on the car? Service? Books?
    >Tools?, give me a full rundown.
    >$69,999 is insane. Please. Randall I am in the biz. Your car if full
    >serviced is at best a low $40K car but more likely a $30s car.
    >
    >Martin
    >
    >Cavallino Motors
    >Where petrolheads rule!
    >1111 Kane Concourse #201
    >Bay Harbor, Florida 33154
    >(305) 867-7740
    >www.4Ferrari.com
    >----- Original Message -----
    >From: "like you" <likeyoudontknow@hotmail.com>
    >To: <sales@theFerrariCollection.com>
    >Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 2:13 PM
    >Subject: Re: 348TS
    >
    >
    > > well,
    > >
    > > I was just on vacation in Dewey Beach and Slaughter Motor cars has a
    >1994
    > > for sale (all stock) for $69,999.99 USD with 17,xxx miles and the same
    > > condition.
    > >
    > > My vehcile has roughly 21,xxx miles and around $15,000 USD in upgrades.
    > >
    > > I will work with you a little on the price if you are a serious buyer
    >and
    > > have cash available ASAP. I can also work with you a few hundred
    >dollars
    >if
    > > you would prefer to let me keep a couple of the upgrades.
    > >
    > > Thanks and let me know,
    > >
    > > Randall
    > > 412-913-0076
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > >From: <sales@theFerrariCollection.com>
    > > >Reply-To: <sales@theFerrariCollection.com>
    > > >To: "like you" <likeyoudontknow@hotmail.com>
    > > >Subject: Re: 348TS
    > > >Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 12:04:23 -0400
    > > >
    > > >give me the low down and a final price.
    > > >
    > > >Cavallino Motors
    > > >Where petrolheads rule!
    > > >1111 Kane Concourse #201
    > > >Bay Harbor, Florida 33154
    > > >(305) 867-7740
    > > >www.4Ferrari.com
    > > >----- Original Message -----
    > > >From: "like you" <likeyoudontknow@hotmail.com>
    > > >To: <sales@theFerrariCollection.com>
    > > >Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 11:18 AM
    > > >Subject: RE: 348TS
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > > NO, its your if interested.
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > > >From: <sales@theFerrariCollection.com>
    > > > > >To: <likeyoudontknow@hotmail.com>
    > > > > >Subject: 348TS
    > > > > >Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 14:29:57 -0400
    > > > > >
    > > > > >did you ever sell that car?
    > > > > >
    > > > > >CAVALLINO MOTORS
     
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  3. JPF

    JPF Formula Junior

    Sep 11, 2003
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    Holy cow, what year is it? Even a '94 (which would have to be a Factory Challeng car, I believe) would not be worth that much.

    I say, PUT DOWN THE PIPE!

    ;-)
     
  4. SrfCity

    SrfCity F1 Veteran

    Nov 1, 2003
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    Orange County, CA
    Why does anyone even deal with this guy given his known reputation? Of course stuff like this is going to happen. I don't get it.......
     
  5. ric355

    ric355 Guest

    Dec 21, 2003
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    I agree, you know the guy's a crook, so why bother trying to deal with him?
     
  6. Ricambi America

    Ricambi America F1 World Champ
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    Unless the seats are stuffed with coke and the glove compartment has some gold dubloons inside, likeyoudontknow is delusional.
     
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  8. Cavallino Motors

    Cavallino Motors F1 World Champ
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    Martin W.
    because you need to have fun in life :)
     
  9. Greg G

    Greg G F1 Rookie

    isnt this the guy who came on f chat crying that he was getting the shaft on some Enzo key deal? Or am confusing two different people?

    What a tool!

    Martin - you say the auction reserve was met? Isnt he contractually bound to sell you the 348 for the final bid?
     
  10. Greg G

    Greg G F1 Rookie

    my bad - I just reread the original post - I now understand it wasnt Martin's $40K bid.
     
  11. sparta49

    sparta49 F1 Veteran
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    I'm not sure about the Enzo key but he was whining about Stebro shafting him
     
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  13. WJHMH

    WJHMH Two Time F1 World Champ
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  14. doug328

    doug328 Formula 3
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    I agree with Martin, sometimes you need to have fun in life.
     
  15. richard_wallace

    richard_wallace Formula 3
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    Feb 6, 2004
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    Martin,

    I will sell you my 95 355 Spider for $$$$185K only 20K miles !!! - but I am willing to move a few hundred dollars if necessary... I also have some upgrades worth at least 100K ;)

    Let me know if you are interested... I will throw in Shipping..

    Is this guy for real?


    Rich
     
  16. Jdubbya

    Jdubbya Two Time F1 World Champ
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    He's listed it a couple times. I wrote and asked why it was back after it had apparently sold the first time. He said the buyer couldn't come up with the money. This guy is something else!
     
  17. BigTex

    BigTex Seven Time F1 World Champ
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    Martin, is this the same car posted in "Classic" this morning????????????
     
  18. jimangle

    jimangle Formula 3

    Nov 5, 2003
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    Isn't this the same guy that scammed dm_n_stuff?
     
  19. Kevallino

    Kevallino Formula 3

    Feb 10, 2004
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    Dunno if the car was the same, but half of the photos certainly were.

    Martin, for the brief time the post was up, the asking price was $44,999 so you are getting there.....

    Post seems to have been deleted.

    Cheers
    Kevin
     
  20. snj5

    snj5 F1 World Champ

    Feb 22, 2003
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    Quote from the ad:
    "ANSA Sport Performance Stainless Steel High Polished Exhaust System = 22+ hp (Factory ANSA exhaust also included)

    - European Model ECU tuned conversion = +24 hp (Factory ECU Units also included)

    - Tubi Exhaust Resonator Race Pipes = 8+ hp (Factory catalytic converters also included)

    - K&N Custom Performance Air Intake performance element = 8+ hp "

    Hmmm. It doesn't work that way exactly......
    I love these - remember in the 70's you could buy enough fuel saving gadgets from JC Whitney that added up to over 100%? A car that would actually make gas!
     
  21. The Mad Hatter

    The Mad Hatter Formula Junior

    Feb 27, 2004
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    Not only that but to sit back and watch this yahoo make a complete and utter a$$ out of himself...cash available ASAP...puuuulleeeeaaaaaaaase! Excellent job Cavallino!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Cheers,
    Travis
     
  22. BigTex

    BigTex Seven Time F1 World Champ
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    I'll bet it has the parts and service manuals too, on CDs!!!
     
  23. FL 355

    FL 355 Formula 3

    Nov 3, 2002
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    Martin - You're going to have to chill out.... I say that as a freind and not withstanding the fact you are in the biz...

    Trader on Line: All 348's for sale. Total 36 cars / 32 cars with price.
    Lowest price = 90 348 for $40,500 seller in Miami.
    Highest price = 80K (2)
    Average of all 348 = $63K

    Dupont: All 348's for sale. Total 28 cars / 24 cars with price.
    Lowest price = $48K (1)
    Highest price = $80K (4)
    Average of all 348 = $68K

    If I had a 348 and someone emailed me saying its worth $30K, I think I would have reacted in a similar fashion. Retail is not wholesale.

    BTW - you going to Sebring next weekend? Need to talk.
    Rgds
    Frank
     
  24. Cavallino Motors

    Cavallino Motors F1 World Champ
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    Martin W.
    Frank,
    you are totally missing the point.

    First: The average prices you are adding together are TBs from 1989 to Spiders from 1995. Obviously a 95 Spider is worth more than a tracked 348TB from 1889.

    Second: Du Pont for example is absolutely no stick to base prices on. If I'd try to get DuPont prices for my cars I would not have sold one yet! By that standard you 355Spider should be worth $135,000.

    Third: I did not say $30K but between low $40s and $30Ks., this is mid $30s or high $30s.

    Remember this car has been tracked. you would have to see how the car was put back together. I also believe this one was heavily crashed from what I know. It is probably the car that came from Utah and this one has been totalled once on the track.
     
  25. dm_n_stuff

    dm_n_stuff Global Moderator
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    Dec 10, 2003
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    YUP!!!

    Sure is.
     
  26. FL 355

    FL 355 Formula 3

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    Matin -

    I Just read the thread in subscribed members about this guy. Did not realize he was the scamer in classifieds.... Thought you were talking with a regular potential customer... Never Mind :)
     
  27. Ken

    Ken F1 World Champ

    Oct 19, 2001
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    The irony is, anyone who would buy the car around his price would likely be trying to scam HIM with a fake certified check!

    Ken
     
  28. sparta49

    sparta49 F1 Veteran
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    Mar 3, 2001
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    Why haven't we started a ban likeyoudontknow thread ?????
     

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