458 Lines on brake rotors--is this normal or okay?

I think it’s normal. I just happened to have my wheels off yesterday and snapped the pics below. These are OEMs that’ll soon be swapped for Surface Transforms. Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login

 

That's nothing. Those,are in great shape. Here arw mine with about 15k km on them prior to going to Surface Transforms. Image Unavailable, Please Login

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Carbon ceramics should be weighed to determine replacement time.

 

Depends on the type of disc.

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Those look brand new!

Ray

 

Sorry if this is a dumb question but what is Surface Transforms? Thanks, my 458 is also my first car with CCM brakes.
Frank

 

Surface Transform is another supplier of CCM discs (they are OEM for Koenigsegg for instance) which provides aftermarket solutions for Ferrari cars (for which the OEM is Brembo).
The apparent consensus here (which I support) is that Surface Transform is more advanced than Brembo.

 

And you can refurbish Surface Transform CCB rotors, another advantage. Though the turnaround time can be, to put it bluntly, long.

 

I should be receiving my Surface Transform rotors shortly, and will install them in my 458. They’re not cheap (around $13k), but my hope is the dreaded brake fade I experience on the track is greatly reduced or eliminated. I wouldn’t make this investment if I were just driving it on the street, but that’s not the case lately.

Doesn’t take but a few episodes of decent brake fade to get one’s attention………..

 

Hehe, have to correct you here

Surface Transforms, with an s on the end, does not manufacture CCM style ceramic rotors, they manufacture CCST style ceramic rotors. CCM which is Carbon Ceramic Matrix is the 20+ year old technology Brembo still tries to pass off as state of the art.

The CCST technology is way more advanced and sophisticated than CCM technology.

 

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there is a brake booster recall on this topic

 

Brake fade and failure are two separate things. I’m experiencing brake fade after repeated hard braking, related to overheating of the brakes and rotors. Let the brakes cool and the problem goes away ( temporarily).

I’m under the impression brake failure is a catastrophic malfunction of the ability to slow or stop the car due to mechanical reasons, which I haven’t experienced.

I will, however, follow the recall once it’s out assure the later never happens.

 

partial loss of braking power is one of the failure modes
brake booster intermittent seal issue
could be your culprit
Ferrari has been less than clear on cause/effect with this recall
Frustrating

 

Well, I doubt it as it’s pretty repeatable with heat. But no, I can’t say for certain.

Let’s install the ST rotors and see if that makes a difference.

 

The 458 fade on track is very well known. It's not about the recall failures. They just have poor cooling. Once he's on better discs it will be gone, especially with upgraded RSC2 pads.