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  1. gatsby

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    #1 gatsby, Jul 24, 2005
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    I decided to try this Full-Synthetic oil spec'd for Porsche and MBZ as I heard a lot of good things about it. I've put in 2K miles on the car so far and the oil is still "golden" at the dipstick. I had Mobil 1 Full Syn before and I think this is also a good oil from what I see so far. I use it with a Baldwin filter. The oil is more "runny" (less viscous) than Mobil 1 coming out of the container; of course it is 0W-40 so that may explain it.

    Tried to get a clear photo of the back label of the oil can but this is the best I could do. Has anyone tried this German oil brand in their car?
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  2. Matt Morgan, "Kermit"

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    Never tried it. and to be honest never heard of it. that does not mean it isn't a great product however. Is there a listing on the package referencing the API rating? SAE xxxx xxc etc? Failing that, is there any reference to any recognized testing procedure?
    In your post , you mention Specified for Porche, and MB. Perhaps a quick check with the local dealership service department would shed more information, as there doesn't seem to be a long line of posts in front of this one.
    Who knows? You may have the next "Mobil 1" or the most highly thought of lubricant. Then again the local lawn mower shop may condemn it... IMO a bit of foot work before opening the container may be the wisest move.
    Best of luck, HTH
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  3. No Doubt

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    #3 No Doubt, Jul 24, 2005
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    LiquiMoly has been an F-1 sponsor since 1982. You should ask AeHaas about their oil.

    They also sell a fuel optimizer that I'd like to try if I can ever find it for sale (called "speedtec"). They claim that it adds torque by burning more of your existing fuel mixture (no change in octane).

    Would be interesting to see dyno tests on it rather than rely on their word, though.
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  4. gatsby

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    #4 gatsby, Jul 24, 2005
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    I was able to get a better photo of some of the Letters on the Front label. -don't know what any of them mean but they seem to be some certification rating? Will try to get a better photo of the back label too and post later.
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  5. Darolls

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    So.............what does that imply??
     
  6. SRT Mike

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    You generally want the oil to be discolored because it means the oil is doing what it was supposed to do, keep the contaminants and dirt in suspension rather than leaving it all around your engine.

    Having said that, there ain't too many base-stock synthetic oil producers so they are generally pretty equal in performance, although the detergent additive package is the different part that each manufacturer has.
     
  7. Darolls

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    Exactly, detergent oil should darken as it cleans the engine of contaminants.

    The statement that gatsby made, implies that it's a good thing the oil isn't discoloured.
     
  8. gatsby

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    #8 gatsby, Jul 25, 2005
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    Here's a photo of the back label. They have green rating bars that go from "Good"(left) to "Excellent"(right) and according to their own comparison of other oils in Europe(?) I'm guessing.

    It was a little difficult to find the oil in CA also (as No Doubt mentioned) but I was able to find a place that specialized in Porsche & MBZ parts and I've spoken to mechanics who use them and they like it a lot. It was a little more expensive than Mobil 1 but some acquaintances who race swear by it. Other than that, i don't really know anything more. I do like what I see on the dipstick, and the engine purrs nicely, as it did with Mobil 1.
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  9. gatsby

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    Don't really know if it means anything, just an observation. I notice some mechanics comment on how "dirty" the oil was by seeing black oil pour out of the drain plug, and the new oil going in is certainly less dark. I'm not sure if a more golden color implies lesser breakdown. Maybe someone more knowledgeable than you and me can chime in?
     
  10. TomDial

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    LM is a well known oil brand in Germany. The do good oil, but the majority of performance drivers here prefer Castrol or Mobil fully synthetic products. May be because of price and availability.
    The 0W40 you got is definitely a very good oil, but no one over here considers it to be a "wonder oil" .

    I personally prefer Castrol RS in the 10W60 viscosity, as its base oil is a 10W- like in the Agip Synt 10W40 used by Ferrari, but with a extended high temperature range. It is recommended to use these -W60 oils to prevent bore wash on high performance engines which use a very rich mixture under full load.

    0W- oils can be problematic in this condition, they usually loose there high temperature viscosity with age. “Age” is dependent on how it is used, but I would not leave it in the engine for more than 5000 miles.

    Shell had to develop a 10W60 for Ferrari, as the thinner Helix consumer products did not work on the 360 engines. No good if you are Ferrari’s main sponsor and cant produce a suitable oil for there cars…
    Same is with the last BMW “M” engines, they have to use 10W60 too, Castrol has a special brew for them, called TWS MOTORSPORT 10W-60. It isn’t even expensive, I get it for prices around 140 $ for 3 gallons, which roughly makes a oil change for a 348 engine.

    Anyway I really don’t think there are problems to find a good oil in the US, I’m sure some of the worlds best are made there. So maybe it is just a little eccentric to go for European products?


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