Little Fun Run with a new Z06

My whole point is that the F430 does not make a ZO6s performance look silly as someone mentioned. The ZO6 has world class performance that is competitive with an F430 and a 997 TT. I think that is a fact. Overall performance on a ZO6 is not silly by any standard is the point I am making. Mind you, I would never buy a new Corvette but the facts are the facts.

 

You can modify anything to be fast. Your Renigade and the 914 that the great German outomaker Porsche and VW produced are vastly different. If you tallk about the 914 that left the factory 35 years ago then you should understand that it would have problems keeping up with certain stock Honda Civics in any situation. This does not take away from the 914 which a great handling (well balanced) little car. Its just that engineers have not been out to lunch for the last 35 years.

 

I respect that what you said is YOUR OPINION and as such I have to reply with my OPINION. I think you're not understanding Corvettes. The Corvette has been around since 1953 so I really hope you're not calling it an imitation sports car. Corvette the car has been around almost as long as Ferrari the company. Also- your logic is flawed I'm not supposed to believe the Corvette is world class because a magazine said so but I am supposed to believe that it's not world class because you said so? I think 'world class' is a term that's thrown around without any real meaning other than it's profound sound. On that note (if nothing else) Corvettes are a world class bargain.

Where I'm going with all this is as Ferrari enthusiasts we shouldn't be so quick to put down one of the most successful cars in history just because it's not made by an elite company with an out-of-this-world price tag. You don't have to like it but I think we all need to respect it. You're all citing magazine articles where it lost to X Ferrari in this test or that test but let's not forget one important fact it WAS compared to a Ferrari and to me that says a lot. ;-)

 

After driving a new Z06 I respectfully offer the prevailing opinion: it is a world class sports car.

Ken Wright

 

AML225, oh please yourself man. Who is suggesting that only the rich can drive super cars? Not me. Maybe you read wrong.

Read: The Z06 due to its lower price and thus much higher volume production level then any supercar, will find itself in the hands of MORE average and below average drivers on any random street then you would with any supercar, all other things being equal. Its basic numbers really. There are and will be lots more of them on the road then any of the other mentioned exotics, and even with an equal percent of bad drivers in both camps you will have a lot more driving Z06 Corvettes for the reason, which has supercar performance IMO. Secondly, even GM proposed requiring a driving course in order to buy the car, and is now considering it on the next super vette Z07/bluedevil that should be around $100K and even more of a brutal performer.

Truth is, I know Corettes well, and Ferrari and Corvette is something I have done and why would you have to convince me what an American Icon the Corvette is? Never did I say anything putting down the Corvette, I was laughing at the prospects of a 348, a car I own with better then stock specs, beating the new z06, or that matter the C5 version. I was simply stating that the driver in the mentioned case was probably not as capable as the car itself. I also never said that a Corvette owner only drives one because that is all they can afford. What kind of retarded comment is that? I have interacted with several corvette owners as a club member with more disposable income then many Ferrari owners. Some have enough cash into their cars that they could have bought a late model Ferrari. What is with putting all the words in my mouth and assumptions when your relatively new to this forum and we don't really know each other? FYI: Lingenfelter is one of my favorite corvette tuners, I'm happy you like both cars also. I’m a true car enthusiast, not a brand snob.

Oh, and Indytech, first you down play the 914 and say, in quote “had a tough time keeping up with him in the straights “ but now its some aftermarket monster and in your words “t will beat the mighty Z06 in virtually every category of acceleration and handling”. Make up your mind. It makes it sound like you give only the details that make it convenient to your story. Besides, this is a Ferrari site and forum section, so who cares about the 914, it’s the monster 348 that “equally terrorizes” the z06 we would all be interested in seeing!! We all know you can mod any car to do almost anything if you spend enough time and money on it. Also, if you don’t want to abuse the 348, then why turbo it? Do you know what only $4-7K in parts will do to the z06? Even with turbos, your 348 would have its work cut out for it.

PS: Magazine racing is gay. These mentioned modern cars do NOT make a joke of the Z06 in any manner, and that is even before you consider the price. If you think that is false, go try it yourself. Each do have their strong and weak points.

Also, obviously “world class” is subjective to some people, but performance FACTS are not, and by that account, I even agree with AML225, the Z06 is world class and some people are just in denial. Read some of the P-car sites, they are deep in denial as well

 

You call the Corvette a cheap imitation sports car??? Imitation of what?

Then you give credit to the Viper as Chrisler's modern version of a Cobra. Is that not imitation? You think that Chrisler pulled out all the stops? That V10 engine in the Viper was being used in comercial trucks. The Viper did not even have windows!

Then you give credit to Ford and the GT40. Is that not an imitation of the original car? It must be nice and easy to design a super car when one can make it look like a former Lemans winner.

 

Will any of you Vetties dispute that the fastes and most competitive sports
cars in the world are in fact Ferrari's (posted by Indytech)

What about the GT Class at LeMans?

 

I would like to see you try the same thing on some of our mountain roads here in North Georgia.

Just pure BS period. I own both cars and drive them both regularly. As much as I love my 348 I can't help but say that it is just not in the same league with the Vette. I say bring your 348 to Georgia for a good spanking!

The HP is 100% usable in the turns. The car powerslides with ease and is very controllable. I regularly see 1+ G's on the HUD in the turns. The chassis is rock solid and the car accelerates out of the turns like a rocketship. You are fooling yourself if you think the Vette is just a straight line beast!

Sounds to me like you are doing the exact thing you are accusing the Vette owners of!

Once again just pure BS. I think you need to drive one before you run your mouth about the cars capabilities. Sounds to me like you have a serious case of Z06 envey.

 

the biggest problem i see with racing is the fact it can come down to driver skill. now luckily the guys at top gear have one driver who does all the racing for their time board. its on the same track in samish conditions and the results show.
faster than the ferrari 430, the ferrari 575 and even the lamborghini murcielago.

no doubt that there are two classes of hi po cars, but not everyone has the money for a ferrari, especially in australia where some go for $500k+.

i recently imported a c6 z06 into aus (its still LHD too!) and it was around the $100k mark. not bad for a car that will break the highway speed limit (110km/h) in 3.7 secs. i love driving it, and it turns heads like youd not believe. but at the end of the day i was just able to afford the performance, let alone the badge to go with it!

my mate on the other hand wants to drop the money into a ferrari because he likes the look of it. each to their own i guess.

c06z

 

Well put!

 

LOL! your a very funny guy Henry. Good one!

 

Well said. I am a vette guy but love all performance cars. I also agree with the guy that pointed out it is 9/10ths driver and 1/10th the car. I don't care what you own you cannot argue the point that the new Z06 is a world class car that competes with the best of them.

 

chuck - it was a joke.

but if you have to worry about potentially balling up your 348 trying to take on a c6z06, you've answered your own question.

 

Actually it is tested to 1.04G but it is not difficult to exceed that in a slide. You are quite right about the acceleration though. The throttle response is unreal and it rev's to the redline in a flash. You really have to watch the tach.

 

I do understand that myself. I really love the feel of the 348. It is like a really fast go cart. I also like how raw it is, no power anything. It gives you great feedback too and the sound of the engine is like music! That is why I just can't give it up!

 

LOL! Good one

 

I know. It was a good one too.

Your right! How have you been Henry?

 

I forgot just how much fun this forum can be! Like I said, bring the P-car to Georgia for a mountain run.

 

I think the new Z06 is a remarkable car for it's price tag and the performance is great! I would have no shame or regret in owning the new Z06 "But would still have to have the 355 "....Just can't loose the music to my ears!

JC

 

I hate to sound like that guy with a Corvette that lurks the Ferrari forum (actually the Z06 is my dads, not mine)

I would have to say that obviously the person driving the Z06 could not drive it worth ****. You have to take into consideration that the driver has a lot to do with the outcome of your events. If you put the same skilled driver as you in the Z06, it would have probably spanked you really badly.

I'm not here to argue that a Z06 is better then a Porsche, Ferrari or whatever. I have read the #'s, and the C6 Z06 is faster then a F430 in most ways...BUT, I would still rather have an F430.

Corvettes are fun and always will be, but there is just something about the Ferrari passion that makes me want to own one someday soon.

 

This is the one of the most moronic posts in a while. I own a 348.

For the price tag of a Z06, it is bar-none the best car out there, period. I like vettes, but not in the same way I like Ferrari's. You can read endless posts on this forum about the emotion and passion Ferrari brings to the table and it's all true. But to think a 914 or a 348 even has shot at a Z06 even in corners is stupid. I'm not saying the Z06 is better than the 348, I like my 348 more, or I would have a Z06, but it's better for different reasons - none of which have anything to do with performance.

You must have looked like a complete loser trying to race him. Kind of the same way kids look in Eclipses and Civics when trying to taunt me in a 348.

Sorry to be so harsh, but think before posting something so obviously wrong and dumb.

 

I guess I will chime in... For starters the Z06 of any year SHOULD be faster than a 348,355 or 430...why??? The damn Z06 has an engine nearly DOUBLE the size of these Ferraris (which of course it needs, to make up for its lack of style). The Ford Shelby Cobra was doing 10 second quarter mile times in the sixties. THAT is what a monster motor does in a light car!!! NO MYSTERY!!

Speaking for myself...I would NEVER buy a Corvette... there are just too many of them around. I don't care how affluent the Z06 owners are or have become. The Z06 cannot compare to the soul and charisma of a Ferrari of any level.

Virtually everyone on this forum can buy a new Z06, which says alot about Ferraris. Where one would rather buy a USED tempermental older Ferrari than a NEW Z06!

BTW when I had my stock 1997 993TT, I raced a Z06 C6 (which I am sure was at least 5 years newer) up a 15% grade for about 2 miles. I had a full tank of gas, a passenger that weighed in at 240lbs and an engine 1/2 the size! It was a sad sight...to put it as brief as the race...the Z06 did not have a prayer!