Looking at a Countach tomorrow

What you all think of this?

http://www.dupontregistry.com/autos/Search/DRauSearchDetails.aspx?itemid=337083


Euro spec. Side carbs 2V.
1983 LP5000S

He's had it 6 years. Does all the work himself. Hasn't had engine out service in a long time. He says it hasn't needed it. Previous owner put in a clutch 6+ years ago. Hasn't needed another clutch cause the guy says he knows how to drive it perfectly.

Did water pump.

Rods are getting loose but not terrible yet.

Wing gets bubbles every year, no big deal, to be expected.

Never been hit. Never been repainted.

I like carbs. I like black. I like gold wheels. I like the euro bumper set up.

Its been for sale a long time cause he's askin a lot of $$$ for it. But hard to say what it's really worth cause I don't think euro spec carb 5000S comes up in the market too often in the USA. Or do they?

Opinions? Anyone know this car? Anyone like to hazard a guess what would be a fair price?

I will let you know how it went, and what he was askin for when I come back and post after the viewing.

 

Hey thanks for the input guys.


I meant the rods on the wheels, not in the engine. sorry for that.

There was this video with bobileff fixing some loose rods on the suspension....common probem....those are the ones i meant.

ill update after i see it.

he seemed like a cool and very knowlegable guy on the phone. and if he did a good job keeping up his own countch well that's pretty impressive I'd say. Only a PPI can tell for sure if he did a good job or he's some hack slowly ruining a countach in his garage.

dont worry, i wont do anything rash without a PPI!

This is a very supportive forum, thanks so much guys,

 

No it's not adjustable height. Actually the springs have sagged a bit and the owner is putting in new springs, so it will be sitting even higher when it's totally right.

I took a good hard look at this car. It's really an amazing car I have to say. The owner seems to have done very well maintaining it himself. Very technical guy, very knowledgeable. He seems to go the extra mile taking care of it....to the point of having 2 barrels of aircraft type fuel in the garage which he mixes with the regular fuel. Now that shows dedication.

It's not a perfect car, got some paint cracking and stuff like that. Nicks here and there. Very minor stuff.

The engine was cold and started right up. It had been 6 weeks since last start. The sound was ferocious when he started it up. MASSIVE V12!! I almost had to change my pants after that.

Owner was saying the exhaust has blue flames coming out of it when it gets hot. I didn't actually see that so I can't tell ya if it looked cheesy or not.

I'd say it's a well maintained show car. It's not driven very often. Might be in the "too nice to drive" category. It's mostly just trailered to car shows.

At 160K asking price, it's well over what the market price is. I think Cats had a similar 2V carb car a few months back that was listed around 104K or something, which sounds about right. This one hasn't been repainted or engine rebuilt, so it's a different thing I guess.

I'm still thinking this over. Im thinking the asking price is way high (and he aint gonna budge) and also, im planning on doing more driving than showing. I dont really do the car show thing. Maybe I should be looking for more of a driver countach, not a show car. And maybe I should be a bit more open minded to the FI cars.

but wow that sound. This is a sick car. The people who came up with this car were wackos for sure, it's just so indulgent.

BTW this c ar is signed by Balboni in 2 places and there's pics of Balboni signing it.

Does 160K sound real crazy to you guys? I can see where he's coming from, its a rare car and all, and its in nice shape. He doesn't want to sell it that bad, and he'll just hold it forever if he has to. I don't think anyone is gonna pay that and I think he will end up holding on to it.

The final twist on the story is this-

http://www.dupontregistry.com/autos/Search/DRauSearchDetails.aspx?itemid=337083
price says "call"

When it was originally listed in 2007, price said 89K
http://web.archive.org/web/20070212234120rn_1/www.dupontregistry.com/autos/Search/DRauSearchDetails.aspx~itemid-337083

That's the "wayback machine" for looking at old expired web pages, for those who haven't seen it.

So he wanted 89K, now he wants 160 firm firm firm. From 2007-2009 im not sure the market price has really gone up much. So it seems to me thats its just a case of a guy who wanted to sell his car but now he doesn't really want to sell it.

In any event, the car was super cool and the owner was too.

 

yeah that sounds right.

Im going to re-evaluate and look at a few more real soon.

It's only the beginning.

Thanks for the guidance.

 

Sweet. Will do.

Sackey and Roy, will send you PMs.

Anyone else who has any "unadvertised" type things go ahead and post here or PM me. I think it's best that I just look at a number of them, like Peter said.

i havent liked any of the Ebay or other dupont countachs lately.

the yellow one in vegas seems all chopped up and im not digging yellow.
the dark red one is OK, i dont like red that much either.

i'd prefer black or white.

i like older ones, but i will go look at an anni at some point also. Im really super tall and i know the anni may be a better fit, but it looks kinda busy to me. Sat in the 5000S today and it felt tight but OK.

mostly i dont care how the seat feels, i just wanna drive around like a maniac, hahaha

im in the LA area most of the time.

I feel a lot of gratitude to you guys, let me know if anyone needs any dating or pickup tips. Not that i think ya need it, but sometimes it's nice to have that "edge" that makes it even easier.

 

I think you guys may be mistaken. Joe doesnt have one for sale right now.

but im gonna talk to ratedx about what he's got and roy about what he can find.