looking for a 993...

Greatest porsche model ever created imho! Last of the "original 911s." My dad has a 97 with about 15-20k invested into it and it turns more heads than just about anything out there. There are several good examples left so I am sure you can find a nice one. The C2S does not add any performance but gives you a widebody, however, they have held their value so well that buying one used might not be worth it. Put GT2 spoilers on, drop it and a nice exhaust(B&B triflo with muffler delete sounds insane). I wish I could post a sound clip of the 993 to prove the point! Go for it and post pics when you get it

 

I own a 911 and am also considering an upgrade to the newer cars;however the only 993 I would consider would be a 1995 as these cars did not have the OBD-2 diagnostic system. Plenty of info on rennlist.com on the 911s.

Since Porsche came out with the 997, 996 values have dropped like a rock and I may consider those cars also.

 

If you want a one owner exceptional 993, call Ray Joseph at RPM SportsCars in Houston. Ray specializes in 993's. He is expensive but his cars are the cream of the crop.

I'm not saying you can't find one privately but if you want to see a lot of clean 993's in one spot and get into a car quickly, Ray is your man.

Scott

 

I had a similar path, I too was enjoying a NSX and have since purchased a 993tt. I will take a look at Panorama and see if anything is 4sale.

One owners are tough to come by. I too would suggest the Rennlist and you might just want to join the PCA so you can log onto there market sections. PM you w/anything.


Regards

 

link to rpm motorsports
http://www.rpmsportscars.com/inven.htm
definitely gotta check that place out, never new about it till now. looks pretty cool.

 

Why do you think Porsche is in decline?

 

Happened to run into this over on the Rennlist.

http://www.truspeedmotorcars.com/inventory_detail.aspx?@page_stock_no=433

 

Ive owned lots of 911s including a 993. Lots has been posted in other threads about the cars.

I do disagree however that the 993 was the "best" of the air cooled 911s. It was the last and the most refined and as a bone stock auto perhaps the fastest, but I still like my hotrod '69 911S better. 2000lb and 220hp makes for a very quick and great handling car! I certainly dont sweat stock 993s at the track.

If you need a car to drive daily that has all the modern creature comforts, go 993. If you want a toy with an amazing driving experience that defines what made Porsche great, get an early 911S. Only problem is that a good 993 is cheaper than a good early 911S. However, in 20 years the price gap will be much larger!



Terry

 

A friend of mine isn't exactly a car enthusiast and the thrill of owning a Porsche isn't really suiting him that well, even as a radiologist. It's a black on black 01 C4 Cab. If you have any interest, drop me a line and I can inquire if he wishes to unload it. It's the second owner, he bought from a dealership in San Antonio.

 

Thanks. I kinda lost my "lust" for Porsche that I use to have. I still love the 911's, its the ulimate sports car for the everyday driver. But Porsche is becoming too high in volume production, and the Boxster is becoming too affordable, and the Cayenne just killed the hot, exotic sports car. They are hot and beautiful cars (expect that SUV, looks like a frog), but its not the same Porsche.

 

I'm a long time 993 owner (96 narrow body coupe now used as a track DE car) and I think the comments which have been made here are spot on. IMO the 993 is the best combination of the more visceral pleasures of the older 911s and the creature comforts (read: AIR CONDITIONING) of the new ones. Excellence magazine provides a good guide to their values (which are low, considering) and the Rennlist 993 board is a great place for information. There is also Robin Son's 993 site, linked through Rennlist.

I agree that Porsche is not the company it was- while their cars still deliver outstanding performance the boutique option lists are disgusting- and I think the Cayenne was (is) one abominably ugly overpriced Toureag- whose quality ratings speak volumes about Porsche's priorities. Note that Porsche's warranty now eschews coverage for even driving above the speed limit- and their much touted composite brakes are absolutely useless on a race track- they will literally fall apart. I had a major disagreement with both local club members and Porsche headquarters over the latter issue- Porsche has promoted PCA Driver's Ed programs nationally but denied warranty coverage (for even non-related failures) on a personal basis.

I love my Porsche but hate the company.

 

911Fan,

You have a PM.

 

there seems to be extreme porsche bashing here with the new cars....i have owned an old 911s, a 993 cab and my previous girlfriend had an 1998 993 ......while they are all fine cars, the new 997s is a big improvement in every aspect of a sports car...even the new boxster s is a better performer than my 1992 c2 993...i know the old school p car people will tell you the old air cool 911s were the best , i like the 997s and the 996 gt3 much better than the 993s except the 993 tt...even the interior the 997 is a big improvement over the the993 with much better ergonomics ....while older classic sports cars are cool to have, modern technology makes much better cars these days...

 

what is rms?

 

The Cayenne is not pretty. I think Porsche hit a homerun with the Carrera GT and the contining 911 series. I like the Boxster, but it's alittle too low in price, and the volume of the company is too high. The company just seems to want to expand its marketplace, which is understandable, but I hear about whining they need it. They are one, if not the, most profitable automakers in the world. Stick with what Porsche does best-the sports car. The Carrera GT, 911 and Boxster are great. Run with that. Limit the production numbers, and maybe bump up prices alittle. Make Porsche not the BMW and Benzs today. Porsche should look at another company, start one or launch one. Build the SUV's, saloons, ect. on that line.

 

thats , i remember hearing about that with the 996, i though that was more common in the early 996s... are they seeing it already in the997s, the car has only be out a few months!!! shame on porsche if this is true!!!!

 

The guy that looks after my Boxster S totally rates the 993 - tells me to get rid of the Boxster and get a 993 cab every time I see him. And he wrenches on ALMS and LeMans cars so prolly know his shizzle.

Having said that, I got the following email from him a while back so put this into your thinking....

"Well, I have finally come to the conclusion that the 911's are just not like they use to be. I have been fighting this for quite some time now. I will never forget when the 993 was released. I actually hated the interior saying it was really cheaply built. I have really grown to love the 993 for it's looks, it's handling and much more. I really do not see myself ever liking the 996 due to the mechanical issues at hand. I really like the looks and the sound and even more so the handling of the 996 but, man what a piece of junk engine. We have never raced professionally with the 996 engine. I will never forget when I was working on the Rohr race team in 1998 when my friend Alan McNish called us from Europe and said that all the new cup cars were leaking oil in puddles on pit lane and to watch out. Well needless to say, we never got that wonderful engine in the US in a race car including the Cup cars.The following year Joel Reiser and I were in the ALMS and Grand Am together when we received our new GT3R race car. The engine was so cool, it was just like the 959 and GT1 race car which I was so familiar with. It was based on the standard 911 aluminum & Magnesium crankcase which dates back to the original design back to the early 60's. What I am getting at here is the new found love I have for the 89-94 Carrera 2-4 models. I have dogged these for so many years that I now feel bad about doing so. Comparing these to the 996 model shows what we still have and without a future, unless the 997 shows to be a true Porsche design of Function over form with quality and reliability being the main focus and not the profit margin. I understand and agree that we want Porsche around for many years to come but, I would rather see the prices where they should be which is much higher and less of them running around. OK, I have been looking at what it would take to make the 911 C2-4 a good reliable model and with engine modifications and I mean fairly extensive ones, this can be a great car. Including the later style cylinders and machining to the cylinder heads to accommodate the cylinders with the integral head gaskets. I would also remove all the lower heat shielding and replace all the crankcase through bolt O-rings in the process. What a good car it can be. You can purchase these cars very inexpensively also. I am looking for these cars' values to rise in the next few years. I do really like the 993 but, they definitely have valve guide issues which are they cause of most of their engine problems."

FYI

Cheers
Kevin