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Looks like I may have a leak...please help

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  1. BLAMPEE

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    #1 BLAMPEE, Feb 12, 2011
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    My 355 has never leaked a drop of anything in the 2.5 years I have owned her.

    However, I pulled her out of the garage today and noticed a clear lubricant with no distinctive smell about in the middle of the car right before the rear wheels. It is not water as it definitely has lubricant qualities.

    It appears as if it may have dripped from the little rounded point that is in the middle of the car right before the rear wheel wells. It has about 10 little drops in front of it in no specific pattern and the big leak "puddle" is about 4-5 inches in diameter.

    Any help is appreciated.

    Car has never leaked...I just moved to Omaha where it has been in a very cold garage for two weeks...it has now warmed up outside to the high 40s...car has not been driven. Also, there were NO leaks on the floor in the garage In my previous home I moved from two weeks ago.

    I can get a pic later as I am not home now.
     
  2. 2NA

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    A little brake fluid from the clutch slave cylinder perhaps?
     
  3. Labman

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    Hey Brock...mine is in the shop right now for multiple leaks including one that sounds very similar to yours. Here is the link of what was repaired so far.

    http://ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=310999

    Is the drip coming from a little bolt and nut that is kinda protruding from the underbody panel?
    That's where mine is still dripping from. I think that is the F1 pump mount. Daniel from Bradan is figuring out right now where the drip is coming from with a tracer dye. Going to install all new crush washers to all the hoses that attach to the F1 pump. Also my throwout bearing is shot so I'm leaking more F1 fluid from there too but that is located right behind the "pumpkin". Keep an eye on the Bradan thread for my car for up to date info. Good luck!
     
  4. BLAMPEE

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    Yes. That is exactly where it is dripping from. I just had a 360 F1 pump installed, and my clutch and throwout bearing were replaced in 2008 when I bought the car.
     
  5. GuyIncognito

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    your car is crying, she's homesick for the PNW

    :p
     
  6. BLAMPEE

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    #6 BLAMPEE, Feb 12, 2011
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    I left a piece of cardboard underneath it today and the fluid is actually slightly brown...

    I know that fluids are colored for a reason, but I don't know what this could be.

    Is there a way I can tell what kind of fluid it it??? I know very little about cars. :(
     
  7. Labman

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    F1 fluid for sure. Guarantee its the same problem leaking from the same area as mine...details to follow. Being that your F1 one pump was recently changed I bet one of your lines are a bit loose. But I know only slightly more about Fcars than you!
     
  8. dougburhyte

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    Yor problem sounds similar to one I had after the clutch and throwout bearing were replaced on my 355 F1. I started seeing a small mystery leak soon after that, and when the engine was out for its major service last summer, it was determined that the thrust (or throwout) bearing had been improperly installed and was causing the leak. Good luck on your hunt!

    Doug
     
  9. G.Simpson

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    Is your garage heated?
     
  10. BLAMPEE

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    Negative.

    But could storing a car in under 0 deferred for two weeks cause a leak?? I wouldn't think so?? LoL. Idk though...
     
  11. G.Simpson

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    My car is not stored in a heated garage either. I get a drip from the F1 shifter breather tube as soon as the temp gets very cold. I have noticed a drip at as little as -18C or 0F.
    When I park the car for the winter at the end of October, I put a piece of cardboard under the fiberglass cover of the F1 shifter mechanism. The leak has never gotten worse, and I would estimate only a few drops over each winter. In the spring before start up I will remove the fiberglass shifter cover, clean it up and the shifter unit during my usual spring checks. Here it can get very cold throughout the winter. I don't drive in cold temps, and during the summer I never get any drips. I thought this was an issue as well and after some research found that this issue is not uncommon. I have also found that some coolant hoses seem to weep during extreme cold as well. So much that when very cold you twist them easily by hand and during the warmer months I can't.
    Does it make a difference if the garage can get cold? Absolutely.
     
  12. BLAMPEE

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    I lived in Oregon where it doesn't get bitterly cold. I JUST moved to Nebraska and it has been between -15 - 30 since I moved here. That's why I thought I'd ask the dumb question of blaming this on the weather.

    It was almost 60 today and is supposed to stay above 40 all week. I'll put some new cardboard under there and see if it's still dripping at the same rate. The drip area was a good 4-6 inches around though.
     
  13. G.Simpson

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    If you put down fresh cardboard without cleaning the fiberglass "cover", you could get some residual oil dripping. I just spray it with brake cleaner to get rid of the oil then put down fresh cardboard. Wait and see if it leaks again when very cold.
    Cheers, Gary
     
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  15. Labman

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    Wow! Same exact place where mine is dripping from. Def F1 fluid. Unfortunately they won't get to my car to at least the end of the week as the shop (Bradan) is swamped with other work. I'm really hoping it's not the F1 pump. They put in a tracer dye to see where it's coming from so now I just have to wait and see. Since you just had your pump changed to a 360 pump I'm sure it's just a loose hose or a bad crush washer going to the pump. You shouldn't even be charged for it. Let me know what they find and I'll keep you posted as well.
     
  16. BLAMPEE

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    Well the problem is that I just moved to Nebraska. So, I am going to have to pay someone to find the problem out here (Going to take it to Porsche of Omaha). Mark @ FoS (who did the work) has been in contact with me and will talk to Porsche in getting this resolved.

    I'm waiting for him to reply to my email I just sent with these pics.
     
  17. G.Simpson

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    Same spot mine leaked from. The source was the breather tube located directly above that point. The fluid would come from the breather tube, leak onto the fiberglass shield and weep through the bolt hole, and down the bolt. Like I said earlier, mine would only leak during extremely cold conditions. Yours may be different.
    Cheers, Gary
     
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    I'm not too familiar with the F1 setup, but looks like gearbox/hydraulic fluid to me. It's not oil and it's not brake fluid. Too bad your 2000 miles away now or you could just bring it by.

    Sean
     
  19. Labman

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    It's the breather tube for me too. They put a bag over the tube for a few days and there were some drops coming out. Pump was dry. I think it has to do with the cold weather.
     
  20. striker27

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    Living where I do I get these problems on sometimes. It does seem to be weather related for some odd reason. Could be seals just shrinking a bit I guess. I do know that when I have the heat on in the garage for the season the car seems to be better for it. I get a strange power steering leak on the rack of my XK that disappears in the summer but will show up on the floor during the winter.
     
  21. PAP 348

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    Yep, thats what I reckon also. :):)
     
  22. windsock

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    This is fluid appears to be directly under the shift actuator which is a long way from the pump assembly. As the system had previously had huge amounts of metal contamination in the fluid I suspect the shaft seal has failed in the actuator. Once it is cleaned and inspected you will have a direction to go.
     
  23. BLAMPEE

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    Well it has been a few weeks here....the weather has warmed up...

    and....well, there hasn't been one drop on the pan I left on the garage floor.

    I have driven her 4 times, so I am guessing that the freezing temps really are the culprit in shrinking those seals within the F1 actuator?

    This is obviously good news...but I will definitely keep everyone posted if it does leak during the summer. :):):)
     
  24. ernie

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    It would still be a good idea to look into replacing those seals.
     
  25. AceMaster

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    That's great news, Brock...sounds like a heated garage may be in order
     

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