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Looks like we're losing one out of our ranks

Discussion in '206/246' started by synchro, Jun 25, 2007.

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  1. synchro

    synchro F1 Veteran

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  2. dm_n_stuff

    dm_n_stuff Four Time F1 World Champ
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    #2 dm_n_stuff, Jun 26, 2007
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    um....

    er.....

    I think if I'm offered my asking price, I'll sell.

    I've had a lot of fun with 04798. It drives great, even to the point that other Dino drivers have marveled at how it runs and handles, but...

    I've never been a keep it forever kind of guy. I had originally thought the Dino might be the car that was the exception to that rule but now I think something a bit newer (but of course a Ferrari) might be in order.

    You'll notice I'm hedging. My wife isn't happy with this, my youngest son is making a sad lttle squeaking noise when I discuss it, and a portion of me really would prefer to keep this car forever.

    But, having said all that, I'm leaning towards selling and have feelers out with a couple of car dealers I know, along with the listing here on FerrariAds.com.

    I'm not leaving the Ferrari world. If the Dino goes, there will be a newer Ferrari in the garage ASAP. Might be a BBi, might be an F355 or 360. Gonna start the information gathering process in the next couple weeks.

    Dave M.
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  3. Crawler

    Crawler F1 Veteran

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    If you do it, ten bucks says you'll regret it within the month.
     
  4. dm_n_stuff

    dm_n_stuff Four Time F1 World Champ
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    Nope.

    I can always buy another one.

    I really enjoy the fix it aspect of car ownership. I've done this same thing with several other cars along the way.

    I actually considered buying a Subeam Tiger that needed the same treatment, but I'm not looking for a project car right now. (Sold a 356 that would have been quite a project recently.)

    I want to kick back, drive and enjoy a bit of the road.

    But, I am gonna get some wheel time in the other cars before I sell, just to make sure. :D

    Dave M.
     
  5. Drew Altemara

    Drew Altemara Formula 3

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    "Might be a BBi"

    I knew distributing the Boxer book would get you. :)
     
  6. dm_n_stuff

    dm_n_stuff Four Time F1 World Champ
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    Been eyeing them for a while, but the book sure helped to bring them into focus.

    My brain is yelling new as possible, my heart is saying, "GO CLASSIC".

    We'll see.

    I haven't sold the Dino, yet, but I do have a couple of nibbles.

    Dave
     
  7. DeaneG

    DeaneG Karting

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    Newer cars are cool, but you get deep into the illegal part of their performance envelope in just a few seconds. Faster isn't always better.
     
  8. dm_n_stuff

    dm_n_stuff Four Time F1 World Champ
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    That's true.

    But I've never been a drive 100+ MPH kind of guy anyway.

    You can have a great time within 20% of the speed limit no matter what car you're in.

    Having said that, maybe the BBi starts to look better and better.

    DM
     
  9. John Corbani

    John Corbani Formula 3
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    Dave,
    I have been tempted many time over the years but keep coming back to the question of "can I drive it on the road and have fun without getting in jail?" The newer cars basically drift through the turns using the extra power. Fine but the cops don't like the technique. Noisy! Among other types of *****ing and moaning. If you can afford the ride, keep the Dino for comparison purposes and have fun with the newer rides as they come up to speed. Same kind of reconstruction nightmare (challenge?) but the end result may underwhelm you. Luck!
    John
     
  10. nerodino

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    Blimey, I had you down as one of the guys on here that would no way part with the car! I hope we dont lose your imput and fine wealth of knowledge on the forum?
    G P
     
  11. dm_n_stuff

    dm_n_stuff Four Time F1 World Champ
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    It's not sold yet.. :D

    And there's nothing to stop me from finding another beat up one and putting it right, either.

    I'll stay here and contribute what I can as I think there's a Dino Owner Emeritus title available if I sell my car.

    Took a long drive today, boy it runs sweet.

    DM
     
  12. MRONY

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    I've only owned my Dino for a couple of months, and I recently drove a 360 and 430 on the road, and as a passenger in a 430 racer on the track.

    Why anyone would give up a "perfect" Dino to buy a cookie-cutter "supercar" I just don't get. OK, if you're a track rat and you're gonna let the new car do it's thing, that's totally different. On the road, the 360 was a handful, and for me the 430 was a very technical drive. I kept trying to get up into the gears so I wouldn't spin the wheels in the turns -- but 80 in second gear? I really can't call that "fun."

    Now, you're probably a much better driver than me and I do like to go fast. It just seems to me swooping over a slight rise then down a sweeping curve in the road with the chains singing, that sensation cannot be replaced by technology and horsepower.

    Why don't you buy a 430 some poor guy wrecked for small money and spend a few years rebuilding that while driving the Dino? Then you can sell the 430!
     
  13. Nemo4

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    Nice to see MRONY wax enthusiastic about his Dino. I've owned my Euro GT for 31 years and, trust me, it's still a kick just to wander out to the garage and look at the thing...
     
  14. Kliz

    Kliz Karting

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    Hey Dave!
    It's your car to do with as you wish!
    Please keep your price up there for the benefit of the rest of us!
    Good Luck!
     
  15. truman bond

    truman bond Formula Junior

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    I believe Mike's post is very accurate in many ways. It speaks to arguably the biggest of all questions, do teh newer ferraris really satisfy as much as the older ones...?

    As a young boy I kind of grew up in a Dino. Can that sensation or the sensation of older ferraris ever be found in a new car, with current techcology and current speed limits.

    Jeremy Clarkson wrote an article about this that TonyH kindly posted in the vintage section. I have just asked modern V12 owners in the 612 / 599 thred what they think.

    All I will say is my Uncle sold his Daytona, sold his 250 SWB, sold his 308 and sold many other such cars, but now as he gets less and less young (ahem) - the only temperature and mositure controlled garage he maintains still has a 7000 mile red 246 in it....

    Your family is squealing for a reason, drive all the others, rent a 430 for a long weekend and then see if you want to sell the Dino....

    best regards,
     
  16. dan360

    dan360 F1 Rookie

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    I would be tempted to sell in a similar position. A Dino for a BB swap with money to spare is quite a nice transaction if you're a one-Ferrari family.

    I'm fortunate enough to have a modern Ferrari as well (a CS) and feel much more complete with both the Dino and the CS in the garage than with just either. The thrill of driving the CS at full chat on mountain roads in NH/VT is tremendous, and I don't agree with Jeremy clarkson, the CS definitely doesn't leave me cold. Just try driving the CS on the track without grinning if you don't believe me.

    The dino is a completely different experience, its a jewel, I can enjoy it at 45-60 mph tooling around local back roads in MA.

    Its easy to rationalise keeping the older car, but I wouldn't shy away from a new Ferrari. Right now a Dino can be swapped for a late model 360... mine is certainly worth more than my 18K mile CS.
     
  17. MRONY

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    Think forward 5, 10 or 20 years. What's going to be more valuable and difficult to find, a really great Dino or a 360?

    The 360 is a car that anybody with a bonus check in his hand can go out and buy. Two days don't pass without me seeing a few around here, along with the 430's etc/ etc/ etc. But, as time passes, hot money Ferrari buyers don't want them any more -- after all, they're loud, ostentatious and where exactly are you supposed to drive them within 60% of their potential?

    Also think of yourself -- what are you going to want to drive 10 or 20 years from now -- a 400-500 hp wedge shaped supercar or a timeless and elegant classic?

    I loved the Times piece on 430's this weekend. Tell my neighbor who dropped 100k on a 612 that you can't lose money on an F-car!
     
  18. dm_n_stuff

    dm_n_stuff Four Time F1 World Champ
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    #18 dm_n_stuff, Jul 7, 2007
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    OK fellas you can turn off the taps now.

    Looks like the Dino stays. House hunting is off the table for now, and my wife was not happy with me selling her in the first place, sooooo...

    04798 stays in Villanova, PA for now. (Unless someone makes me a crazy offer.)

    Looks like I'm going to add a fun car to bang around in to go with it. Nothin' fancy maybe a few yar old Porsche Boxster S. (Which I drove today and it was a blast.)

    But, you can all put away your guns and knives now, I'm not gonna let her out of the zip code.

    And I guess I can change my avatar back. It's been Benedict Arnold for the past couple of weeks.

    DM
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  19. MRONY

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    The Boxter is a GREAT idea. I've been looking at one, too. Could sell my '95 Jag XJS and just about get one even up. I rented one in Geneva a few years back and drove through the mountains into Lichtenstein, and it was a medium-powered, great-handling BLAST. Good used ones are really cheap, seem to run all day long, and fun, fun fun. I wonder if they made a manual?

    I drove the Dino 50 miles today on my way to the golf course -- which is 1.5 miles away. It was my best drive of the day -- even better than the one I poked 290 down the middle!!
     
  20. dan360

    dan360 F1 Rookie

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    I assume you rented a tiptronic Boxster (note the s for the miss-spellers out there). Stick is the standard on them. 5-speed on the 2.5s. 6 Speed on the S.

    I had one of the very early original 2.5 cars, Silver/Boxster Red for a very happy 20K miles. Lovely car. The S, especially the late model cars are truly fast cars. The 2.5 is a very sweet car.

    Mine however was not reliable - 3 roof failures, 2 main oil seal failures. I'd still recommend one, but do shop for clear history and have it inspected.
     
  21. MRONY

    MRONY Formula Junior

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    It was the first year they made the car I think... 97 or 98, w/the tiptronic.

    Good advice on the specs. It's not like the XJS has been completely reliable. No engine issues, but it eats batteries (I just disconnect it every time I park it, and it's fine) and the a/c needs a recharge every two years. It sure is a silky ride, though. Actually, that's not bad for a 12 year old Jaguar when I think about it!
     

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