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  1. Rosey

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    Hi all,

    I have just noticed the original carpet on the cabin fire wall, where you store the targa roof (behind the front seats) seems to have a single wave/crease running from one side of the car to the other. I'm assuming after 25 or so years the glue has started to come loose.
    Anyone else have that "feature" and is it hard to fix?

    Thanks
     
  2. Iain

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    Yes and yes!
     
  3. JV's89

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    I paid someone to restore the interior of my car and for the most part he did an excellent job. After a few months, however, the carpet behind the seat began to sag and eventually started flopping around.

    I tried several times to repair it myself, but the adhesive always failed after a week or so.

    Finally took it to another trim shop and they managed to get it right.
     
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    [Finally took it to another trim shop and they managed to get it right.[/QUOTE]

    What did they do differently? Did they use stronger adhesive?
     
  5. JV's89

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    I'm pretty sure they removed the carpet, cleaned off the existing adhesive and reinstalled it with the same 3M trim adhesive that I had been using.

    I'm a friends with the owner of the shop that got it right, so I'll call him tomorrow and confirm and let you know.
     
  6. Rosey

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    That would be much appreciated. I am dropping the car off next week to a trimming shop and would love to give the guys there a heads up on any advice from a successful fix.
     
  7. JV's89

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    Spoke with the trim guy this morning. He said they removed the carpet and sprayed it and the firewall with 3M Super 77 . He also said it's imperative to apply the carpet and remove it to create a "web" then reapply the carpet.

    I asked if they had to remove the old adhesive and he said no.

    I don't remember for sure, but I'm almost positive I was using a different 3M adhesive with my failed attempts.

    I hope this helps.
     
  8. Rosey

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    Thanks for that. I'll buy a can from my local hardware store today and give it to my trimmer to use. Cheers.
     
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    Good Luck!
     
  10. Rosey

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    I know the thread is a year old but I finally dropped my car off to my trimmer to re-stick the carpet. Used a similar product to 3M and lifted the carpet from the bottom up. Removing the parcel shelf is a bigger job and harder to get back to perfect. Also re-stuck the drivers door pocket as the vinyl was coming off.
    Small jobs that keep the interior factory fresh.
     
  11. JV's89

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    Good luck!

    Unfortunately, and with very few miles since the last attempt, mine is loose again. :confused:

    I'm beginning to think that the original interior guy may have cut the carpet too short.

    I'll post a pic later today.
     
  12. Rosey

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    Please do.

    Regards
     
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    Thanks again, guys.

    I'm still thinking the carpet was cut short.

    In any event, I'll pick up a can of the recommended adhesive and have them try again.
     
  18. Rosey

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    Yes, unfortunately the carpet has been cut short. The top of the carpet should have much more excess to go well under the parcel shelf, not be cut so short.
    My problem was a little different. My original carpet was just unsticking and creasing from the left to right of the car halfway down the firewall (not coming away at the top). Hate to say it but my problem is a lot easier to fix then yours.
     
  19. JV's89

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    Damn.

    I don't know if I can buy just that section.
     
  20. Rosey

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    Need to replace just the carpet section on the firewall with a larger piece. Speak to your trimmer.
     
  21. Rosey

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    P.S Is your parcel shelf chocolate brown suede? Is that material factory correct?
     
  22. JV's89

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    It's black alcantara. Trim guy talked me into it.

    It looks a little purplish in that photo, but looks better, and more black in person.
     
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    I just fixed mine using DAP Weldwood brush on contact cement. I only applied the cement along the top edge of the carpet (about two inches) and along the lip under the shelf. I slathered on very thick layers, let the glue set up to tacky then the carpet virtually "welds" itself to the top of the firewall. I think the spray on stuff works great for flat, non-porous surfaces but cannot fill the voids in the carpet nap like the thick brush on stuff does. Even if you feel your carpet is a little short I think this would work because, from what I see, the shelf does not in any way serve as a support for this. the carpet just lays under it and is not secured by it.
     
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    Thanks Paul

    Can you tell me approximately how much carpet goes under the shelf?
     

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