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  1. junglistluder

    junglistluder F1 Rookie
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    So the FIA just mandated a new exhaust with a separate tailpipe for the wastegate so that the cars will be louder in 2016. Can't wait to hear the difference!

    Engine exhaust changes to make cars louder for 2016 season | F1 News

     
  2. NeuroBeaker

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    Will that cause louder exhaust-type noises or merely louder whooshes from the turbo when drivers come off throttle in the braking zone?

    We want louder engine/exhaust noises, not louder whooshes and whistles. :eek:

    All the best,
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  3. furoni

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    So, we already had fake ovetakings, now will have fake noise...awsome!!! I'm pretty sure this will make f.1 a lot better!!!
     
  4. David Lind

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    And in the next few years we will have closed cockpits and, ultimately, remote control drone cars! Ah well, there's always vintage F-1!
     
  5. junglistluder

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    That's not a very informed post; I assume you are not experienced with turbo exhaust setups and external wastegates? There's nothing fake about the noise. It's exhaust gas being dumped to atmosphere instead of being rerouted internally.
     
  6. TheBigEasy

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    Hahahaha.... what a joke.

    Might as well just make them install more batteries to power their new LOUD sponsor... Bose speaker system.

    Who needs a wailing v12 when you can hear that subwoofer sound playing the soundtrack from the days of F1 actually being exciting.
     
  7. Kiwi Nick

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    Since F1 has embraced the notion that it needs to lead the way in road car technology, it is only a matter of time before their own leanings bring us self-driving race cars. Then the Vettels and Alonsos of F1 will be the best writers of System Dynamic algorithms. And just as there are a handful of drivers with the skills of top F1 drivers, there are only a handful of SD writers who are really good. The challenge for the FIA will be how it limits sensor input, processor specs and lines of code. Perhaps "drivers" will be teams of programmers form MIT, Cambridge or Cal Tech.
     
  8. TifosiUSA

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    +1

    This is a great step in the right direction. I know these things will never sound glorious like the V10s but this is a big improvement. Hope they sound more like the 80s turbos.

    I remember everyone was *****ing about the titanium skid plates because it was "fake"...erm...no, they just switched from wood to titanium.
     
  9. william

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    LOL
     
  10. Swobber

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    I like titanium skid plates and V6T noise.
     
  11. furoni

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    I honestly couldn't care less about the noise, or the vip areas in the new tracks, or the changing colours in the Marina bay hotel, what i do care about are competitive cars and drivers, that don't need some clever device to overtake the car that goes ahead, who by the way can't even defend his position (besides one direction change).....it's boring, it's fake, and the noise question is just sand in your eyes.....it's a bit like teling you they are going to give a very nice plate to change the broken one you have, but they still give you the same crap food!!!
     
  12. william

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    Do you think swerving from side to side to block your opponents from overtaking is alright?
     
  13. 375+

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    Jenks always made the distinction between sound and noise. The V12's V10's and V8's generated a spectacular sound; hybrid V6 turbo's just make noise.
     
  14. furoni

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    No, but i also think that the current formula limitates too much a drivers defense
     
  15. scudF1

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    The fact that they acknowledged the noise issue, its the first step towards the right direction.
     
  16. Jagbuff

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    Noise is not the problem, they are slower than 10 years ago, F1 is going backwards!!
     
  17. Jack-the-lad

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    Yes, but they're more relevant!
     
  18. LightGuy

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    Honestly can you tell the difference just by looking at the cars on track ?

    I'm losing interest for other reasons but speed and sound (on TV) are neither.
     
  19. DF1

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    Im happy to have sound - Id much prefer better racing. The sound is not the reason its exciting but one piece.
     
  20. Bas

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    Sometimes a car goes by on TV and I'm positive that it's broken.
     
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    Who cares about any of it if the teams are so restricted in the rules, no one can ever be competitive? The only thing they have to do with f1 to make it exciting is allow DEVELOPMENT and testing. We've had almost two years of merc having the best engine, and regardless of the talent of the other teams, it stands for nothing if they aren't allowed to develop.

    People always bang on about complaints of merc dominance by saying 'it's no different to Ferrari in the early 2000's, it's just because it's them' - it's NOT the same. When Ferrari dominated, or Williams, or mclaren for that matter, the rules were such that every week you had a chance someone would catch up. The development race was on, and if you wanted to win in the pinnacle of racing, which of course you were in because you could afford it, you spent your money and developed the car. Of course, the well funded teams would mostly beat the shoestring teams, but the shoestring teams were there for the marketing buzz, not to win, and everyone knew their place.

    Claiming f1 is the pinnacle of racing, actually setting high costs for everything and then writing the rules so you can't possibly win anyway, how is that better? The well funded teams are still the well funded teams, but the shoe string teams are now even more hamstrung by the rules. Unless there's a problem, the results will be identical week to week, there's no excitement of a new development and its potential, it can't happen.

    In aus last year, I predicted merc would win through last year and this, and they have. Back in 2000, 2001 etc, we could have predicted Ferrari would win races, but we also knew that at any point. Williams, mclaren, Renault etc COULD easily come to the next race, or the one after that, with a great development, or engine power increase, and it would be over. Who could say with a straight face they expect Ferrari or anyone else to win a normal race this season? Unless merc screw up, no chance. Their advantage is locked in within the rules, it's a joke

    I don't want f1 to echo road cars, they never did before. F1 set standards and brought along technology, SOME of which made it into road cars if it made them better. Road cars didn't lead f1 tech, f1 lead road car tech when it suited. That's why formula E is so passé, no one cares about it. Electric cars may be what we will have to put up with one day, but racing is racing, excitement is the name of the game, and that means competition, not repetition
     
  22. NeuroBeaker

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    Difficult for me to disagree with any of that, mate. They really do need to reintroduce development. Even if a testing ban (still stupid) remains, teams should be permitted to develop the car throughout the season.

    All the best,
    Andrew.
     
  23. subirg

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    Re noise, I think what is needed here is a sense of perspective… This is an example of AMAZING F1 noise. Turbo wastegate noise sounds like what I hear from souped up Nissan's being driven badly on city high streets...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqYPU3MNqHw
     
  24. dwhite

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    Noise is what you care about. Go watch drag racing. Plenty of noise there.

    I was at Montreal in June, I liked the fact that I did not need earplugs to sit and enjoy the race. Cars sounded great IMO. heard em all from mid 80s through today, so plenty of experience with the different engine notes from many, many different eras.

    I'm always amazed at how many are concerned about the sound vs the racing.
     
  25. 375+

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    The outcry over the sound simply affirms that it is an essential component of the spectacle of F1 racing to most fans. If you don't care about sound go watch Formula E, you will be enthralled by the experience.
     

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