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Lowering GTC4LUSSO or Not

Discussion in 'FF/GTC4Lusso/F12/812S' started by Mickey Bharat, Jul 7, 2019.

  1. Mickey Bharat

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    Wheels: BC Forged HCS23
    Size: 21" front 22" rear

    Tires: Pirelli P Zero
    Size: 255/30/21 front 335/25/22 rear



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  2. Il Co-Pilota

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    In that case, it will ride quite a bit more noisy and rough, compared to the MPS4S tyres the car came with.

    Not trying to be a stick in the mud, but the PZero is quite a step back in terms of comfort and handling. That's with the OE sizes. With the lower profile and wider tyres, you can expect an even harsher ride and more noise. The MPS4S is seriously hard to beat and it's by far on top of the heap as for as steet performance tyres go. The PZero 4 is better than the PZero, but still lacking compared to the MPSS and MPS4S.

    If your rear rim width will allow, you might want to consider the tyre size on PZ4 Lamborrari has on his. This size will also make the car less prone to understeer. That 335 section rear tyre along with the 255 will really add some push and understeer. 265 and 315 is a better front to rear bias.
     
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    Hi Blue Sea

    I reached out to GMP in Novato and spoke to Dale. Really passionate about what he does. I am going to meet him tomorrow morning. We talked about him installing my Novitec springs, also he talked me into buying the Capristo exhaust and x pipe. So off to sort a deal out and place an order.
    Thanks for the advise
    I will let you know how it goes.

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  4. Mickey Bharat

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    Hi Co Pilots

    I did some investigating. Your information is correct about noise. To go on MPS I would need to drop my wheel size from 21/22 to 20/21. I want to stay on 21/22. I have 21/22 with pzero on my 488 Spider and I am comfortable with the ride quality. I will need to stick with Pzero to keep the 21/22 wheels. Tiko at Motorsport LA totally agreed with what you told me and even tried to find a MSP for me.

    Any how I am staying with Pzero for the wheels I chose. But wanted to reach back and say super thank you for the advise.

    Kindest Respect

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    Mickey, that's a great looking setup. Can you tell us what the offsets are on those wheels? thanks.
     
  8. Mickey Bharat

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    I am waiting from my wheel provider to give me offset numbers but here is the diagram I was given to pre approve before my wheels were made. I will post offset numbers later when I get them.



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  9. Mickey Bharat

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    The wheel size and tires are as follows


    Wheels: BC Forged HCS23
    Size: 21" front 22" rear

    Tires: Pirelli P Zero
    Size: 255/30/21 front 335/25/22 rear


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  10. Il Co-Pilota

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    If you don't mind me asking, what's there to approve? There's not specifications.
     
  11. Mickey Bharat

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    Yes good point. It’s been a few months since I got the wheels in August. But we had a debate on wheel width size , in particular the front. I was looking to get a deep dish and there were challenges to achieve it. The wheels I bought are two piece so the offset could be adjusted by the middle section as you might see from diagram. The issue I was facing with a deep dish and made to the correct offset was the risk of the wheel hitting arched on turning. The diagram was to show me the dish depth front versus rear with a safe offset and width. I thought all people who buy custom wheels go through a design process. First time I bought custom wheels.
    The wheels and service was from Tiko at Motorsports LA. It was an Awsome
    Experience to work with Tiko and BCforged to get exactly what I wanted. My wheels are not off the shelf and probably cannot be bought off the shelf due to the customisation. And by the way the custom wheels and pzero cost me just under $7k


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  12. Mickey Bharat

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    Lot of the questions you are asking Tiko can help you. Call him. He has become a great friend. Mention me ,Mickey and he will look after . He would look after you anyway without my referral +1 (818) 245-0933


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  13. Il Co-Pilota

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    Nice wheels. Reminds me of the late 70's Snowflakes off the 77-79 Trans Am.
     
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    Here are the wheel specs sent to me by Tiko at Motorsport LA

    Front: BC FORGED WHEELS HCS23S 21X9 5X114 29mm ROYAL GOLD FINISH/POLISH STEP LIP/BLACK RIVETS 67.1MM
    Rear: BC FORGED WHEELS HCS23S 22X12 5X114 40mm ROYAL GOLD FINISH/POLISH STEP LIP/BLACK RIVETS 67.1MM


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  15. Il Co-Pilota

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    Thank you.

    Wow, that's a pretty aggressive offset. Does the rim lip or tyre protective lip poke out from underneath the fender lip? Would love to see a photo from above to see if any part of the tyre or rim sits outside. Thanks again. This kind of stuff is very helpful to your fellow FChatters. Lots of photos of fancy wheels and all, but way too little in terms of data points that shows what actually fits.
     
  16. Mickey Bharat

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    Here we go fresh pictures. Tiko is professional. No rubbing what so ever
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  18. ttforcefed

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    i lowered my FF with the original suspension - kept it a week before i went back to stock. def not worth it.
     
  19. Mickey Bharat

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    You need new coil overs . I installed Novitec. Really nice ride. Never regretted it. I must admit I was apprehensive because I bought a brand new 2019 Lusso in June . You also have to get wheel alignment done to match the lower other wise it could be a bad ride


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  20. Il Co-Pilota

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    That's great wheel fitment. I'm impressed:)
     
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  21. ttforcefed

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    the oem coilovers can be lowered - no need for new ones unless you wanna go lower than .75 inch. i drive my car in the snow so keeping the height at oem level
     

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