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Lowering my Pista

Discussion in '458 Italia/488/F8' started by SoCal to az, Jan 11, 2021.

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  1. daniellove304

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    As soon as you start putting after market parts on any car you will mess the whole handling and performance on the car. And that car will never be the same .If i was you i would not do anything to it
     
  2. GT2goneF

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    Not far stretched. They always seem to have the technical information way before anybody else. Always the first to generate their upgrades. I am no computer engineer but I think that mapping an ECU to obtain better performance requires a lot of hours and trials and errors to crunch the right numbers.
     
  3. GT2goneF

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    With all due respect, I disagree. It is OK to leave as is, if that is one's preference. But if you want better, you can, as long as you have quality work and quality parts.
     
  4. SoCal to az

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    Wrong. So wrong. This has not been my experience as my drive has immensely improved.
     
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  5. GT2goneF

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    Tell me how you really feel.. Could you please??? I didn't get that. LOL
     
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  6. Pis7a2020

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    Wait....you are saying that Ferrari installs factory coilovers with the ability to be adjusted, but you can’t actually adjust them because they are not meant to be compressed?

    What is your reference? I’ve had conversations with the techs at the dealer and that is not what they say.




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  7. GT2goneF

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    I never said you couldn't lower your car with factory springs. Anything can be done. You can adjust the springs to a certain extent without compromising performance and ride comfort, but that adjustment has a limit. You can adjust the springs to a low stance as well, but you will compromise their performance and your ride will be pretty hard.

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  8. Pis7a2020

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    Understood. I would imagine that 1” or so should be fine without compromising the springs.

    If one is looking for more than 1-1.25” of lowering, which is probably too low anyways, I agree that aftermarket is probably the way to go.






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  9. Il Co-Pilota

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    Oh my,,, not even sure what to say...

    What is your experience on track and with performance driving the 4X8 cars?

    You clearly don't know how bad some of them roll out of the factory. They are so far off it is dangerous.

    The idea of not being able to reset it? Good grief. Just lut it on the rack and set it to factory specs. You need to do that at any rate.

    And while you talk about messing things up. Here's a bit of news for you. Ferrari do the damndest things. On a car like both the F8 and Pista, they set up the front so light and darty to give an artificial exciting experience. A bit like the stupid throttle sensitivity on the 458. Yet they dial in so much understeer that not even the dumbest bimbo would be able to climb a tree with it in a monsoon. You think that is a great set up for actual driving and the best Ferrari can do? Good grief. Unless you have gotten your hands dirty with the cars and know first hand that there are no improvements to be made, I think everyone would greatly appreciate it if you refrain from being so arrogant and condesending. Trust me. There are people here with litterally thousands of hours of track hours and racing licences. Some might not know a whole lot and not need a lot, but that's not the same for all. If you don't know, don't track, don't train or can't get it right if you try, fair enough. But don't project that on to the rest of us calling us out as morons who think we know better, because that is essentially what you do.

    Enjoy your factory set up. Hopefully it's not top bad.

    Quick edit: Just saw that you list yourself as,a Ferrari mechanic. That makes it even worse if that's true. In that case you know how screwed up these cars are from the factory - and you should also know EVERYTHING can be reset. I'm speechless.

    Sorry for the slightly heated rant guys, but that kind of crap really gets to me.

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  10. Il Co-Pilota

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    Oh and as far as aftermarket things go? Do you think my Surface Transform brake discs and Pagid pads are a step down from the overpriced 20 year old tech Brembo discs, and the run-of-the-mill OE pads using the good o'le T4300 compound? Or what about my HEL braided PTFE brake lines. Are they a bad idea compared to the OE rubber lines that deteriorated and had to be replaced under warranty, because they could not handle the heat from track day use? And the same was the issue for the rubber bushings in my 488 front suspension btw. Please enlighten me on how I make the car worse by replacing these things with a better part. I'm all ears. I take it that you think the Braille B7548 AGM battery is a bad idea? Yeah, I was told by a tech at my dealer that the OE FLAMM battery was programmed for the car... Herp derp...
     
  11. SoCal to az

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    This was posted on the F8 thread by @TSOYBELIS - In no circumstance is this an acceptable wheel gap. Zero! This is either a factory screw up or the worlds first 710 hp off road Ferrari.

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  12. Il Co-Pilota

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    YES!!! It's the perfect adventure! Let's do LA to Vegas,,, ON DIRT!!!:D

    it looks like the wheel arch gap of my Pista Spider,,, on a jack... Let me find the picture. Not even joking here.
     
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  13. SoCal to az

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    Took my car to the gym. After I came out I would see my car and think- dang that’s a good looking car, too bad the ride height sucks.

    Today- I just thought- dang- that’s a good looking car. That’s it. Nothing more.
     
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  14. 458cc

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    The Ferrari's come way too high from factory. It's a shame to drive around with stock height.
     
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  15. daniellove304

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    do you really thing you people can make the car performance better then Ferrari ? Because that is funny you guys should work for Ferrari lol
     
  16. SoCal to az

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    With all due respect- ferrari is lazy. Crappy paint, crappy ride height, crappy electronics. But hey- it’s a ferrari!
     
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  17. SoCal to az

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    @daniellove304 - do you believe this is an acceptable ride height for a new 350k Ferrari? Or can it be improved? Serious question.
     
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  18. daniellove304

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    haha well sale it and buy a Honda or Kia with 100k warranty.
     
  19. daniellove304

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    nothing wrong with the car
     
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  20. SoCal to az

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    I just asked a serious question to you. It’s no laughing matter and I certainly have no intention to sell the car.

    But as a consumer who just dropped close to half a million on my Pista, I’m dissapointed with the ride height. So you working for ferrari is basically telling me to go pound sand and if I don’t like it, buy something else.

    Do you feel this is the most effective way to deal with customer feedback? Or should this be addressed because so many people here are complaining about the way the car sits.
     
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  21. SoCal to az

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    So a 2 inch wheel gap is ok by you? I guess we will have to agree to disagree.
     
  22. Pis7a2020

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    When the dealer takes delivery, I would imagine they are are responsible for prepping the vehicle and ensuring that it is delivered to the customer per the specification.

    I would get the dealer to correct the issue under warranty.

    Also, not sure, but I thought that Ferrari used suspension blocks for shipping purposes? If they aren’t taken off, the car will ride higher.

    In regards the comments about crappy paint and electronics, that hasn’t been my experience and I have had 7-8 Ferraris. I do have to paint correct them but I do the same for all my cars including my bentleys, Porsches and Astons.




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  23. SoCal to az

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    Curious why mclaren, porsche and lambo don’t ride that high. Ferrari must know something they don’t.
     
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  24. SoCal to az

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    I’ll post some pics re the paint. Of the super cars I’ve owned, Ferrari has the worst paint.

    Your comment about dealer prep may be spot on and it’s possible my dealer didn’t adjust the car as it should have been. But again, I have not had that issue with the other cars I’ve owned.
     
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  25. 458cc

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    Well on the bright side, at least the Ferrari's come with adjustable ride height so we have the option to adjust the ride height without having to replace anything.
     
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