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  1. Darolls

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    #251 Darolls, Nov 1, 2009
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    Joe has always been a fair and honest guy to my knowledge. I am surprised though, that "They haven't changed any of the staff and it's not likely that they will."

    I'm sure LM's employees knew what was going on and followed Abbas' commands. Carla, I commend you for getting out when you worked for him, and became aware of his dishonesty!!
     
  2. Enzomaniac

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    Another dumb comment from Duh Rolls. For your personal edification, Duh, I'll state this:

    I don't like Bentleys;
    I don't like Bentley Gold Coast because I don't shop anywhere in Chicago where there are palm trees or stuffed leopards; and
    I have no affiliation with Abbas. In fact, I don't consider him my friend, but I have no reason to call him a criminal.

    And Duh, please read the news when you can, or talk to someone in the know. Or at least, go to the Daley Center in your spare time and do some reading so that you can catch up on what is happening with/to Abbas. Thank you.
     
  3. Darolls

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    Ah, what a meaningless retort. I suggest that YOU go to the Daley Center and do some reading. You might find out how many suits have been filed against LM and Abbas.

    If you don't know him, or the tactics used to sell vehicles through LM and BGC, it's difficult for me to understand why you're so vehement in your denial of his impropriety.

    Anyhow, I didn't mean this to become a war of words, and I have no problem with your beliefs. At this point, I'm dropping any further posting on this subject, as it looks like it's getting a little too personal and that's not what it was meant to be.

    Best to you.......Sincerely!
     
  4. It's Ross

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  5. carguy1984

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    Tax time troubles
    http://www.dgreport.com/index.php/2009/11/06/tif-tax-troubles/

    An even more troubling sign of the tough times is Luxury Motors. Through the various companies that make up Joseph Abbas’ holdings, he owns 14 or more properties along the 300 block of Ogden Avenue that total over 205,000 square feet of real estate including Luxury Motors, a Bentley dealership, Downers Grove Saab, and properties that currently are home to Downers Grove Yamaha, LaMantia Builders, and others.

    Mr. Abbas is $70,637.86 in arrears on his 2008 taxes. and his web of companies have several that, starting in December of 2007, have been involuntarily dissolved, revoked, or not in good standing. Only one was found to be both active and holding property locally. 3311 Charles, Inc. is listed at 330 Ogden, the empty corner of Fairview and Ogden, and which is also in tax arrears.

    Luxury Motors was the high flying car dealer that Downers Grove had a sales tax rebate agreement with that, in it’s glory days, generated several hundreds of thousands of dollars for the village, and rebated one year over $200,000 back to the car empire. When times got tough car sales, especially luxury car sales, collapsed. Village Manager Dave Fieldman canceled the sales tax rebate agreement several months ago and has not made rebate payments for some time now, since Luxury Motors fell below the threshold. Credit Fieldman for looking out for us; we could have been paying them our sales tax dollars while they were not paying us our property tax dollars.

    These properties have more intrinsic value at tax auction than the luxury condos on Forest. They’re commercial properties along a high traffic artery that’s just been repaired, and the tax bills will probably be auctioned off pretty readily. It’s up to Joseph Abbas’ various surviving companies to repay the liens or walk away. In either case the largest sales tax generator in Downers Grove has been hammered by the economy, and DG tax revenues have been hammered right along with them. It remains to be seen if these tax bills will get sold. When they get auctioned off the money will go into the hopper and work its way back to Downers Grove months, like 4929 Forest late, perhaps a year later than scheduled, but better than never.

    Interesting quote from Abbas
    http://www.chicagobusiness.com/cgi-bin/news.pl?id=35955&seenIt=1

    "Mr. Abbas, 44, says he is not selling because of any financial problems, but merely wants to get out of the car business."

    I guess not paying property taxes doesn’t fall under “financial problems”?

    Charter One Bank had several outside companies overseeing the dealerships since last October in order to try to protect their loans for the inventory.
     
  6. Darolls

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    Mr. Abbas is FOS, and he looks much older than 44. Probably just another one of his lies!
     
  7. carlagio

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    Here's the quick summary:

    Name Search Results for: LUXURY MOTORS
    Case Number Plaintiff Defendant Date Filed
    2009-M1-155349 DELAWARE PLACE BAN DG MOTORS INC 06/30/2009
    2009-M1-155356 DELAWARE PLACE BAN ORLAND MOTORS INC 06/30/2009
    2009-M1-142764 WM J CASSIDY TIRE LUXURY MOTORS 05/15/2009
    2009-M1-140781 TRIBUNE COMPANY ORLAND MOTORS INC 05/12/2009
    2009-M1-140783 TRIBUNE COMPANY LUXURY MOTORS GOLD 05/12/2009
    2009-M1-128408 DELAWARE PLACE BAN NEW LUXURY MOTORS 04/01/2009
    2009-M1-128632 LEIGH COMMUNICATIO LUXURY MOTORS GOLD 04/01/2009
    2009-M1-128637 KEYTH SECURITY SYS LUXURY MOTORS ORLA 04/01/2009
    2009-M1-126938 HARRIS KENYA RUSH MOTORS INC 03/27/2009
    2009-M1-123692 CAPITAL ONE BANK JABER JALAL M 03/18/2009
    2009-M1-114969 BAY VIEW ACCEPTANC LUXURY MOTORS ORLA 02/23/2009
    2009-L-001961 BOATWRIGHT PATRICI STOLTZ DAVID J 02/18/2009
    2009-M1-104561 SPEEDWAY SUPERAMER LUXURY MOTORS INC 01/21/2009
    2009-M6-000229 AMU-GIWA STEVEN LUXURY MOTORS 01/20/2009
    2009-M3-000105 HUSKER AUTO GROUP LUXURY MOTORS WHOL 01/12/2009
    2008-M1-017704 BAUCOM RICHARD L ABBAS JOSEPH 09/16/2008
    2008-M1-150479 REYNOLDS REYNOLDS LUXURY MOTORS INC 06/24/2008
    2008-M1-142822 CAPITAL ONE BANK SCHEIDLER LINDA M 05/27/2008
    2008-M1-142747 DZIEDZIC WLADSLAW GAPWISE LLC 05/23/2008
    2008-M1-128616 AMR ABDEL KIREEM NEW LUXURY MOTORS 04/08/2008
    2008-M1-300051 MUHAMMAD STEPHANIE LUXURY MOTORS INC 01/08/2008
    2008-M5-000037 STATEFARM MUTUAL RILEY SHAWN 01/08/2008
    2007-M1-681142 CITY CHICAGO OMRAN ABDEL 12/29/2007
    2007-M1-168425 MICHAEL SILVER COM LUXURY MOTORS INC 07/09/2007
    2007-M1-161006 STATUE COM INC LUXURY MOTORS INC 06/19/2007
    2007-M1-161009 CAPITAL ONE BANK ENGELBRECHT SANDRA 06/19/2007
    2007-M1-129099 DUMAN MURAT LUXURY MOTORS INC 04/04/2007
    2007-M2-000739 RAPOPORT ALEXANDRA LUXURY MOTORS 04/04/2007
    2007-M2-000654 PAEV DMITRY LUXURY MOTORS INC 03/26/2007
    2007-M1-120626 CAPITAL ONE BANK LITSOS NICHOLAS B 03/14/2007
    2007-L-001480 STUNDZIA OSKARAS LUSURY MOTORS 02/09/2007
    2006-M1-193468 CARNICA INC NEW LUXRY MOTORS 11/28/2006
    2006-M1-176886 HBLC INC GASHI ASTRIT 10/02/2006
    2006-M1-693881 CITY CHICAGO NUNEZ ALEJANDRO 09/10/2006
    2006-M1-162940 BROWN UDELL POMERA LUXURY MOTORS INC 08/17/2006
    2005-M1-178072 HBLC INC MOHAMMAD NEMER JR 11/08/2005
    2005-M1-303896 OTERO RAMONA RIGATOS EMMANUEL 09/23/2005
    2005-M1-141332 LYAAZALE ANOUAR ATWAN MOHAMMAD 06/17/2005
    2005-M1-015448 STATE FARM MUTUAL LUXURY MOTORS INC 06/14/2005
    2005-M1-114143 KAREN STAVINS ENTE LUXURY MOTORS INC 03/10/2005
    2004-M1-184913 HENDRESON NOLEM LUXURY MOTORS 12/16/2004
    2004-L-013654 JOROSKY TERRY MERCEDES BENZ USA 12/07/2004
    2004-M1-617028 CITY CHICAGO VOLKMAN ROXANNE 07/30/2004
    2004-M1-141875 WORLD CREDIT FUND SAMHAN NICK Y 07/07/2004
    2004-M1-111428 JAMROZ JOHN T BMW NORTH AMERICA 02/24/2004
    2004-M1-101483 DE ANDA VALERIE SPRUILL OGDEN 01/09/2004
    2003-M1-168765 MCGUIRE ENGINEERS LUXURY MOTORS INC 10/22/2003
    2003-M2-001957 COWAN GRACE LUXURY MOTORS 08/07/2003
    2003-M4-000995 WRIGHT LESLEE R LUXURY MOTORS 05/23/2003
    2002-M1-120668 FORD MOTOR CREDIT MOSTAFA FATIMA E 04/11/2002
    2002-M5-000251 TSIAOUSIS TOM SWEISS REYAD 02/15/2002
    2001-M1-137257 HOUSEHOLD BK NEVAD OSIECKI MICHAL M 08/01/2001
     
  8. ShawnLambo

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    FYI, civil is small stuff, "Law" are the big boy lawsuits

    https://w3.courtlink.lexisnexis.com/cookcounty/FindDock.asp?NCase=&SearchType=2&Database=2&case_no=&=&=&=&PLtype=2&sname=luxury+motors&CDate=

    Case Number Plaintiff Defendant Date Filed
    2009-L-006526 GRAND CHURCH INC DOWNERS MOTORS INC 06/04/2009
    2009-L-050608 AMERICAN CHARTERED BANK ABBAS JOSEPH 05/19/2009
    2009-L-004446 FIRST CHICAGO BANK TRUST LUXURY MOTORS GOLD COAST 04/14/2009
    2009-L-001961 BOATWRIGHT PATRICIA STOLTZ DAVID J 02/18/2009
    2009-L-001329 MODERN LUXURY MEDIA LLC LUXURY MOTORS GOLD COAST 02/04/2009
    2008-L-013976 TRIBUNE CO LUXURY MOTORS GOLD COAST 12/19/2008
    2008-L-010784 FIFTH THIRD BANK CHICAGO LUXURY MOTORS OHARE INC 09/29/2008
    2008-L-051013 FIFTH THIRD BANK CHICAGO LUXURY MOTORS GOLD COAST 09/25/2008
    2008-L-009771 AKANDE HARRY A LUXURY MOTORS INC 09/03/2008
    2008-L-004550 DERATANY JAY PAUL ABBAS JOSEPH 04/25/2008
    2008-L-003340 ADAMSKI DAVID E LUXURY MOTORS ORLANDPARK 03/26/2008
    2008-L-002712 A PERFECT EVENT INC LUXURY MOTORS GOLD COAST 03/10/2008
    2008-L-001594 BYTTOW ENTERPRISES INC LUXURY MOTORS GOLD COAST 02/13/2008
    2008-L-000944 ESCALANTE JORGE LUXURY MOTORS ORLAND PARK 01/28/2008
    2007-L-008728 LASER POKORNY SCHWARTZ FR LUXURY MOTORS INC 08/17/2007
    2007-M1-168425 MICHAEL SILVER COM LUXURY MOTORS INC 07/09/2007
    2007-L-002206 PUDLO WOJCIECH MIDWEST LUXURY IMPORTS 02/28/2007
    2007-L-001480 STUNDZIA OSKARAS LUSURY MOTORS 02/09/2007
    2007-L-000758 SHAHID HASHAAM LUXURY MOTORS INC 01/22/2007
    2006-L-006005 COSENTINO MICHAEL OPREA GHEORGHE 06/08/2006
    2005-L-003117 MOVADO GROUP INC LUXURY MOTORS INC DBA 03/18/2005
    2004-L-013654 JOROSKY TERRY MERCEDES BENZ USA LLC 12/07/2004
    2004-L-008184 STATE FARM MUTUAL AUTO IN MERCEDES BENZ USA INC 07/21/2004
    2002-L-005071 HORTON LON E LUXURY MOTORS INC 04/23/2002
    2002-L-003060 HORTON LON E LUXURY MOTORS INC 03/12/2002

    I bought a car there and they are slime.
     
  9. Darolls

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    #261 Darolls, Nov 11, 2009
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    After reading subsequent posts, I believe your post,"Another dumb comment from Duh Rolls," is completely out of line! An apology for your ignorance is past due; I'm waiting to hear from you who is apparently someone in the know, as you said("And Duh, please read the news when you can, or talk to someone in the know").:rolleyes:

    P.S. By the way, thanks Carla and Shawn for your input.
     
  10. carguy1984

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    How is Abbas still operating and how does Bentley Motor Company allow it?

    The Attorney General needs to get involved.
     
  11. JSR29

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    The how? That, was, is, and will be a mystery.

    Bentley? No Mystery there. He sells cars and he never f****d them directly. Manufacturers are the world's biggest whores.

    BTW: the tread title is probably not relevant as I'm not sure Mr. Abbas is involved with Luxury Motors any more. That is Luxury Motors, not Bentley Downers Grove and Bentley Gold Coast. Further, Luxury has abandoned it's Downers Grove location. Signs are down and the cars are gone.
     
  12. carlagio

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    Joe Abbas WILL still be employed at Bently Gold Coast and Lamborghini Gold Coast. They are keeping him on to "sell" cars. He is still a big part of those stores, but the OWNERSHIP will be transfered to Perillo when they close in the near future. Bently is requiring the suburban location for service. Lamborghini Gold Coast has no service at this time.
     
  13. JSR29

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    Carla;
    No doubt you're able to get all the inside dope. No one can resist you. I would just say "if" they close not "when".
    This is the best business as spectator sport ever!
     
  14. carguy1984

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    #266 carguy1984, Nov 11, 2009
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    Just a rumor, but the deal with Mr. Perillo keeps Abbas as a part owner.

    Abbas can be found at the downtown location selling cars. Stop in and see him.
     
  15. Enzomaniac

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    Duh, you said you had ended your discussion. Make up your mind. Since you're continuing it, you've yet again made another dumb comment. There is nothing incorrect or inappropriate regarding any of my prior statements. Others, perhaps even you, have played judge, jury, and executioner, and have branded Abbas a criminal. We live in America, not in Persia where Abbas is from, where that might legitimately happen. Wait until such time that a jury labels him a criminal to call him one, or else, you, too, may be on the receiving end of a lawsuit. In addition, read my prior posts very carefully, because you are obviously not an astute reader.
     
  16. Darolls

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    #268 Darolls, Nov 12, 2009
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    Aw sheesh, I give up! Yes, I did say I ended my discussion, but new posts brought me back into the fray.

    Please forgive me 'Oh Omnipotent' one. I concede that you are unconditionally the winner in this argument. With remorse, I sheepishly remove myself to the dungeons of Hell!

    May God have mercy on my soul! ;)

    P.S. The last I knew, Persia is now called Iran and has been for many years. Why don't you get your facts straight????
     
  17. CareerCarGuy

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    Wow guys,

    Drove by the other day and the signs are gone.
    Looks like that Luxury Motors of Downers Grove, the original one, is no more!
    Too bad...
    Lots of good memories and fun times.
    Wiped off because of a man who got too greedy :(
     
  18. It's Ross

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  19. CareerCarGuy

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    Look friend,

    I spent close to seven years there, from '99 to '06, and mostly, those were good times.
    Growing from 60 cars a month to over 600, all at the same location.
    The things started to change after Bentley dealership, which was purchased for next to nothing, made the guy rich overnight, and made him feel invincible.
    Total transformation from a humble, down to earth guy, to this cold blooded, lying and cheating creature that ran everyone decent out of the place!
    Both employees and repeat customers:(
     
  20. Imola82

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    #272 Imola82, Nov 12, 2009
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    I was there for about 6 months back in '06. Hated the environment. I'm very glad to be doing something else (which I very much enjoy).

    There were some very good people there. Joe was a very interesting fellow. Certaintly a learning experience for me, good and bad.
     
  21. carguy1984

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    It's easy to outsell your competition and get rich when you don't pay off the cars at the bank. Fifth Third Bank learned that a few years ago and now Charter One and American Chartered. $27 Million between the two banks is a lot of cars.
     
  22. It's Ross

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    I ain't your friend and that place was sleazy during your tenure. If you remained for 7 years then all I can say is; Birds of a feather...
    I'll speculate that your "good times" were slapping your knees each time another dubious car was offloaded or some usary loan was procured.
     
  23. trunks2004

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    This is very discouraging....I found a great car on eBay early this morning at a great price and did an offer and they accepted it (looks/looked like a great deal). Now as I have investigated them on the web things look very scary. Has the purchase gone through with the new owner? Any new info come out (this site was very informative about this firm and links to articles and court info was very helpful).
     

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