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  1. snowric

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    Dear all,

    Please would someone post some photos of an original m series fuse board layout ideally with the electric windows fuse in place. When my car was re wired it was done as an e series with a Perspex board and one oft relays is dangling loose - not ideal.

    Dennis McCann produces replica m series circuit boards in the right material (it is in the post to me now) and, as one of next winter's projects I would like to return it to original !

    Finally any input on sourcing fuse boxes, covers and labels, I see that dinoparts makes reproductions.

    Many thanks as ever !

    Snowy

    Ps gearbox rebuild working well 500 miles in


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  3. HMB-Dino

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    Dinoparts 6-slot fuse box, required for an M-Series, has different dimensions than my originals. I have 2 sitting in a drawer because of that mismatch.
     
  4. snowric

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    Can you post a photo of your board, i have matthias' from his book but need a close up of the fuseboard component positioning and the order of the fuse boxes, thanks for the hint o the fuseboxes from dinoparts.

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  5. HMB-Dino

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    The only photo I have is only a partial of the fuse board from a while ago (probably not of much use), and my Dino is with my mechanic & body shop for the next few weeks.
     
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    #6 Nuvolari, May 11, 2012
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    Here is an image of an M series fuse board. A few points to note:

    - The black box on the left I have seen both with the 'FIAT' script as shown or 'Magnettil Marelli'. These are not too hard to find nor are they too expensive

    - The light is a common Fiat part (Fiat 850 I believe) and should be yellow zinc in finish

    - The terminal in the middle with the 6 screws is hard to find. It is common to much more expensive Ferrari's and I have not found a cross reference for it. It will be pricey.

    - The 6 fuse fuse blocks are again hard to find. By chance I found one NOS set but all the other ones out there are slightly different in shape including the dinoparts ones. The labels are available from Parker Hall at Kilomongero designs.

    - The three silver Lucas relays are pretty easy to source and can probably be used from your old fuse panel

    - The black relay is a Fiamm horn relay and not too hard to find. Again there are 2 versions, the one shown and one with a more prominant FIAMM molded on it

    - Lastly the nut that holds the board in place is normally changed and wrong on most cars. The most correct fastener I have seen for this application is the same thumbscrew that is used for the battery cover (which differs from the ones used on the airbox lid)

    I hope this information is of use. Best of luck with your project.
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    Great info Rob! What is the purpose of the red paint on the screw heads? What kind?

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    #8 HMB-Dino, May 11, 2012
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    Interesting...holes in my 01712 M-Series fuse board are round, not slotted.

    And no dabs of red paint.

    Note - this picture is from 2010 when I first acquired my Dino.
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  9. Carbonio

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    Sorry Ron but yours is wrong. Gotta get a new one
     
  10. Carbonio

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    Alberto the red paint to my understanding is to confirm that the screws are tight and it tampered with. Also it must be lacquer paint applied by a left handed Christian using a horse head brush :)
     
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    #11 swift53, May 11, 2012
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    Ron, I am surprsed they did not bump you for that one, or have you replaced it?
    Anyhow, this is what it looks like in origin.
    Who sells this kind of resin fiberboard?

    Regards, Alberto
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    Rob, that is perfect, my son's name is Christian and he is....left handed.

    The horses are all over the roads, so it'll be easy to snip a bit of tail :)

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    What's the difference in panel styles?

    "As so many stories begin with 01464 'At some time in the life of our car....the fuse panel was changed' In this case it was changed to a later North American spec fuse panel leaving us to make a new one from scratch."
     
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    Just about everything is different on the North American fuse panels. The main thing being that the panel is a different size and the fuse holders are different (they each hold 8 fuses compared to 6). Parts for the NA panels are pretty easy to find.

    Yours looks like something fabricated after the fact and is for sure not original. A definate points deduction to an observant judge.
     
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    Thank you all so much for the comments and pictures. It seems that Dennis McCann makes a replica M series board and i will post a photo when it arrives !

    snpwy
     
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    #18 HMB-Dino, May 11, 2012
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    You mean this (pic grabbed from their site)?...
    FUSE/RELAY BOARD (PLATE ONLY), DINO 206GT/246L/246M (REPRO)

    It looks totally different...notice long slots for fuse box wiring rather than 3 separate pairs of slots.

    Rob, how much do you charge? Sounds like an opportunity.
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  19. swift53

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    It is missing all sorts of 'oles, and Snowy when you get the drill out, you are going to have to drill smaller for tapping them out. You are also going to need a paper template to properly position them.
    I can trace you one (photocopy), and mail it if in no hurry.
    If so, pm me your address.
    Regards, Alberto
     
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    #20 racerboy9, May 11, 2012
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    And then there is this fuse panel from an early Dino. Got this from FAF in Atlanta in the late 1980's. You can see the imprint from the two fuse blocks but only one group of three vertical slots between them.
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    I wonder what the extra holes were for. This board has been used?

    Regards, Alberto
     
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    Is it possible, like other things in the Dino world, that there is no one `correct' answer when it comes to the fuse board for a given model series/country?
     
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    This is a used board. The story was that a customer bought a new Dino and after a year or so decided to make a quasi racer out of it and so took off a lot of parts. This is supposed to be one of the cast off parts.
     
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    #24 HMB-Dino, May 11, 2012
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    Mystery solved? Should we be sold bold as to assume that Matthias' Compendium and its pictures are dead on perfect?

    If so...
    - It appears that the McCann's fuse board is correct for a 206 (Compendium pg 99)...all long slots for fuse boxes, unique to the 206
    - the L-Series introduced the short fuse box slots, a pair of 3 (Compendium pg 139), but the righthand fuse box wires only have 2 holes to its right...matches Alberto's
    - the M-Series is the same as the L-Series, except the righthand fuse box has 5 holes to its right for additional wiring...Rob's matches this one
    - the E-Series goes to the totally different fuse boxes and mounting approach (Compendium pg 231)

    Racerboy's fuse board seems to be missing that 5th hole to the right of the righthand fuse box...???


    Shame on us!
     

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