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M5.2 ECU - no injector pulse on 1-4

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  1. jochem00

    jochem00 Formula Junior

    Jun 19, 2014
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    this morning my car started to run on 4 cilinders.
    1-4 went out.
    did a compression test and all OK
    sparks on all spark plugs.

    but not of the 1-4 injectors got a pulse from the 5.2 ECU.

    checked the cableloom and that is fine too so to me it has to be in the ECU itself.

    is there anybody around Monaco with a 5.2 from which I could borrow an ECU to do a quick definitive check?
     
  2. johnk...

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    Have you check codes? Do your SD lights work? Could be a bad TCU shutting off the right bank.
     
  3. jochem00

    jochem00 Formula Junior

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    0 Codes.
    No Slow down light
    Cables are all OK and I checked them again.
    same symptom with cold start.
    Indeed tonight I will first swap the two Cat temp boxes to see if the problem moves to the other side.

    Does anybody know what kind of signals the TCU are giving to the Engine ECU?
     
  4. johnk...

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    Voltage should be around 0.5 V cold, somewhere around 2+V hot.
     
  5. jochem00

    jochem00 Formula Junior

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    #5 jochem00, Sep 15, 2015
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    so if I disconnect the two TCUs completely, will the engine still run?
     
  6. Markphd

    Markphd Formula Junior

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    As noted above, you are looking for around 1.5v on the TCU output. I am having the same problem on my F355, and I am unsure what the cause is at the moment. I hope that you are able to sort it out, I am suspecting an ECU failure on my end at the moment, but I sincerely hope that is not the case. To say that it is pissing me off is an understatement.

    Mark
     
  7. jochem00

    jochem00 Formula Junior

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    just disconnected both TCUs - same problem
    changed TCUs from from left to right - same problem
    no engine check light, no codes.

    car is going to the dealer tomorrow as they might be able to pull more codes than me with my obd2 scanner
     
  8. taz355

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    Sometimes the codes take afew minutes to come on. It definately sounds like a cat sdecu problem. Cant say for the euro but usa cars if sdecu is disconnected will give solid sdl and shutoff bank. What year car? Do as you said and change the sd ecu it will likely shutdown the opposite bank.
     
  9. jochem00

    jochem00 Formula Junior

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    Problem resolved this morning.
    went to Ferrari dealer to hook it up to SD2.
    A reset via SD2 made the car running as normal again.
    No codes or reason why could be retrieved.
     
  10. m.stojanovic

    m.stojanovic F1 Rookie
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    Does it mean that you could have just disconnected the battery for a while? Modern car electronics seem to be much like computers - most problems can be resolved by "unplug and plug in again" (shut down and restart).
     
  11. jochem00

    jochem00 Formula Junior

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    no, I had the power of for more than 6 hours.
    you can't reset the ECU yourself like you can do with the SD2.
    Kind of a hard reset.
     
  12. yelcab

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    With the F355, the SDL condition requires a reset command sent over the OBD2 computer port. You can send this command even if there is no CEL and it will reset your SDL condition and clears the light.
     
  13. johnk...

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    Mitch, He never had a CEL or SDL.
     

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