Of the 15 cars I have owned, only three have had automatics. I have had a 540 six speed, and two M5s. I was looking forward to the new M5 or M6 and now it seems that they will only come with SMG. One of the big reasons I liked BMW over Audi and MB was that you could get a real clutch. My wife agrees she calls SMG and Tiptronic shifters idiot shifters. I guess when it comes time to trade and I want real manual transmission I'll have to look at a Cadillac CTSV. I hear that you can get Mallet to give you 500 to 600 hp.