Hello, everybody! I'm in the process of making some reproductions of bezels and other stuff for project 37313. I already have the clock bezel designed and ready for 3D printing, (measures taken from the oil temp gauge). I need some measures taken from either the speedometer or tachometer bezel; I have attached pictures of the measures I need in order to design those. Since I don't have either of them at hand, I'm hoping one of you guys could give me a hand here. I'd also like to have the measures of the plaque that sits on top of the steering column for reference. Thanks a lot in advance! Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
My clock bezel is broken. If you're printing one up could you print another for me. I'll cover the printing cost and postage. Your project is awesome by the way! J
Daniel, Can you make or know if anyone makes a replacement chrome ring for the smaller gauges? Ideally it would be nice to have one that could be taken on and off again.
You may want to put on your list the plastic ring that goes around the ignition switch. Just a thought if you are looking for additional small projects.
Sure thing! I'll try to have one done next month to check for size and fit; I'll let you know of the results ;-)
Yep, that one is a little tricky, I admit. I was considering making some with a CNC machine shop; I just didn't have the time to check into it already, but I think it´s possible. Still gotta find a way to make them easy to take off and on again... maybe with a couple of locking tabs... it would require slight mods to the gauge itself though.
Hmm... that sounds interesting. I don't have a sample to work with though. If anyone has a broken one that can donate for the cause, i'll get my hands onto the project. If someone has precise measures of the part I can work with that as well...
I buy a bunch of Fiat parts from this business in TX, and they sell chromed gauge bezels. Without removal, the gauges in my GT4 seem the same size as the guages in my Fiat 124. Chrome Gauge Bezel Set in Dashes, Consoles & Panels For 70$, seems like a good deal - you could scuff them and paint them flat black, or perhaps they're available in flat black with more searching... Jonathan Denver, CO the Fiat RN! GT4 15302
These are interesting; however, the big ring seems smaller than the ones found in the GTS/GTB. Talking about Fiat 124s, I'm seriously considering the smaller gauges for my project; already ordered a used one from eBay to check for size and fit. The face bezel is diferent though, so these would still need to be made. For the speedo/tach gauges I'm cosidering new AutoMeter ones, modified to look like the originals.
Readings taken from a tacho not dismantled -sorry-: -External diameter, 98 mm -Internal diameter at the first ring -outer side-, 95 mm -Internal diameter at the inner ring -just over the cristal-, 90,5 mm -Bezel depth, aprox. 7/8 mm -Chrome ring depth, aprox. 6 mm -Chrome ring width, aprox 2 mm. If someone can confirm/correct these figures -from a dismantled tacho-, it would be nice. Good job Daniel!
I agree. If the ring could overlap itself that would work for me. Or the tabs behind the gauge body lip. Superformance.co.uk has these. Ignoition Lock Plastic Surround, 60164001, £1.70
Antonio; Thank you very much for the measurements; could you take a couple more for me? I need to know the depth of the inner ring (from the glass surface to the top of this first ring) and also, the measure from the top of the bezel to the top of this first ring. Can you arrange that? Thanks a lot once again!
HarmonyRoad; I was just informed that the first "prototype" bezel has been shipped to me today. I'll post pictures of it when I get it and I'll check it for size and fit. I just recently noticed that the clock will need a recess for the setting knob on the inside of the bezel, so I'll take proper measurements once I have this part at hand and modify the design accordingly to accommodate this recess.
And I must be honest, I do like the richness in details of the part... however, the porosity of the material used is not acceptable. Maybe this is because of the 3D printing method used (powder deposition), so I'll switch to some sort of resin base material the next time; just gotta make sure the material withstands mild temperatures... Design wise, the part was very useful; I found out that I messed-up the bottom finish of the part (mostly because I didn't want to disassemble my oil gauge and I still hadn't received my Fiat gauges); it should be flat and the securing tab surrounding the bezel should be larger than what I initially estimated. You live - you learn. Also, there is a small orientation tab that i didn't even know it existed; very useful for the clock, but not so much for the other gauges. I still haven't found a proper chrome ring substitution; the FIAT rings are made of aluminum, which would be an interesting way to go... given, of course, that I could get them to be as shiny as the originals. Online CNC machine services require rather large production numbers; so I must find a way to test this idea first before placing an order. The good news are that most of the "visible" parts of the bezel, which were measured from the original gauge, are accurate; this means that my next attempt might actually produce a bezel suitable for the application. On the other hand, I was able to determine the specs for the recess needed for the clock's setting rod, and I'll incorporate this detail to the design. Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
I need a ring for my tachometer. Mine was broken some time in the car's past. I would get two, one for tach and one for speedo so they match.
What 3D printing service did you use? Was it Shapeways? How strong and how long will the material last? I made a few SLA pieces in the past and they were very brittle.
As far as I know, SLA printed parts, or any other part printed on a resin-type 3D printer, tend to be brittle, but withholds details much better; that's why I was considering using that type of process the next time. For this try-out I used Shapeways to print the part. The material I used was laser-sintered nylon plastic, which is quite strong and flexible, but has a "grainy" look to it, is not water-tight, but supposedly should withstand relatively mild temperatures. I was just contacted yesterday by a company called Sculpteo, and they have a similar material, but with a polished surface... I might give it a try as well.
Brittleness, porosity, & surface texture are challenges being worked, but so far haven't been overcome. Laser sintering so far seems to be doing the best job of producing high resolution parts with the smoothest surfaces. FDM's dot size is signifigantly larger than laser sintering. I just took a look at Sculpteo's polished surface: Sounds like they are sanding & polishing, or at least polishing, to get the surface finish.
NOBODY has these anymore! If anyone knows where I can get one, PLEASE let me know. What's the latest on making part 60164001, ignition lock plastic surround bezel?
Why not just have it CNC cut out of aluminum and then polish it? Might not be concours correct but I would replicate the plastic parts out of aluminum and then have them finished in the proper black. They'd last forever. What type of CAD file do you have? I have a Haas VF2ss I could cut some when I get a little free time.
Agreed. 3D scanning and printing seems to be an odd choice of producing something that can be cut on a lathe.
