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Discussion in 'Other Italian' started by Mang, Jan 10, 2009.

  1. Long Beach Pride

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  4. DenisC

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    There are many unusual items on the Hyman car. Some prior owner has made many improvements / modifications.

    Seeing it is an early car it should have vertical slats in the rear ?

    Some of the chrome trim has been painted black. No specific Mangusta has been recorded as having black-out trim.

    Modern Pantera upgrade with Omni mirrors.

    It has a modern rotary AC compressor and Pantera condensor fan and shroud.

    Modern NipponDenso Alternator

    Bizarre and unusual spare tire rim

    Pantera Valve cover emblem

    Engine shields have been painted black

    Pantera wiper switch

    A couple weird idiot light bezels in the dash

    Headrest have been added to seats.
     
  5. Daryl

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    I believe this is the car I parked next to when I took my Mangusta to Concorso Italiano. At that time it was owned by Jim Keune from Santa Clara. It had been totally restored with, as Denis says, many changes and upgrades. The entire interior is new, in non-standard colors. (As far as I know, all Mangustas had black dashboards and dash tops, and the leather on all Mangusta steering wheels was black, regardless of the interior color.) If I'm not mistaken, the engine hatches on that car are steel rather than aluminum and are quite heavy to lift. It's a pretty car, but man that's a lot of money.
     
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    Mangusta script ID badging relocated
    no window winder holes in doors
    air cleaner lid and tubes incorrect
    lots more I'm sure

    I thought the asking price was ok in today's market
     
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  8. DenisC

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    just wish there was even more awesome footage of that car in motion, or even standing still. Sweet find Denis, thanks for sharing!
     
  11. Mark Charlton

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    Great find. My only one real complaint is that the video is about 10 minutes too short. Five at the front, and five at the end.

    Thanks for posting Denis.

    Mark
     
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    No longer on the website. Presumably sold?

    If sold, and sold near asking price, looks like Mangustas in the US are catching up to those in Europe and selling in the $300s
     
  15. Daryl

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    I was told by a friend of mine who knows Mark Hyman said that the car sold in the 150 range, but that is unconfirmed.
     
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    I find that extremely difficult to believe.
     
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    Well what was the asking price? I never saw it. BTW, everything "wrong" with that car is easily corrected.
     
  18. Mark Charlton

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    The original asking price at Hyman was $349,900 US. While not perfect, and with some minor modifications, this is a well-known car. I would be extremely surprised if it sold for close to $200K below asking. It might have been sold under $300, but certainly not under $200 in this market.
     
  19. Mark Charlton

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    #1091 Mark Charlton, Oct 11, 2014
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    Correction: $349,500.

    Also, this is one of the first 5 Mangustas build (possibly the 2nd or 3rd sold) and some of the things that appear wrong (script locations specifically) are correct for the first few cars built. The VIN on this is 8Ma508. It would be difficult to justify a 100pt restoration to 100% original at the asking price, particularly with a car that presents so well.
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  20. davebuchner

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    This is due to be auctioned at Silverstone Auctions in two weeks time ...

    1969 DeTomaso Mangusta - Silverstone Auctions

    I am not so familiar with Mangustas - but this car must be one of the earliest examples of a space saver spare wheel, across any manufacturers?
     
  21. Mark Charlton

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    #1093 Mark Charlton, Nov 3, 2014
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    That is not the original spare and not in the original/intended location. Fitting a miss-matched diameter spare tire to the rear of a Mangusta would likely destroy the ZF transaxle in fairly short order. Better to carry cans of "Tire Fix" than to use that spare. Otherwise the car looks quite presentable.
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  22. Anthony bentley

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    Need to replace it now, does anyone know where I can get one or what it is from. Looks like a Lucas part.
     
  23. Jamesark

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    Anthony - I don't know part numbers but just on sight it looks the same as early Mini Minor.
     
  24. testamon

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    I have searched the web for a replacement, however not found a straight stalk with the chrome horn button. I got a 119 SA type Lucas assembly which had a square end and swapped the original lever/horn push onto the new switch. Just needed to drill out the pivot pin to the old size.
     
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    #1097 red27, Nov 7, 2014
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    Hi. This sounds similar to the lucas stalk for the early Maserati Ghibli, for which the exact part is not available. I found a Lucas 119 with a short shaft and square end on ebay. MIE sells them though.
    You can sand the edges off the push knob until nearly round and then turn the final part in a drill and polish it. If the shaft is too short, as mine was, then carefully cut it in half trying not to damage the internal wire. Then sleeve the two ends in the appropriate length of cut down radio aerial. Finally cover with black heat shrink tube when it is all back together.
    Mine now looks like this. Hope that helps. Mark.
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  26. testamon

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    Great job! I looked at refinishing my original round end as it has a couple of chips in the plastic, however could not think of a way to get it in the lathe to refinish. I could not get just the end off as it may be glued? Your idea of cutting the tube obviously allows this shaft to then be mounted, turned and finished. I still do not think I will cut my original shaft!
     
  27. Daniel Marchand

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    Were you the restorer on 8MA 962?
     
  28. peter bellgtc

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    Daniel yes i restored 8MA962, current projects 8MA766 8MA516 and Detomaso F2 tipo 103
     

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