Thats the car!!! What chassis number is that and who has it now?? Notice the wide rear wheels on the first photo. I have already had the wheels made and machined using computer software. The body is also almost done. This will be a high detail BBR style kit in 1/24th scale. I need as much information on the prototype as I can get. Thanks. Tom Tanner/Scale Designs/Ferrari Expo 2010 model/photo contest-Chicago April 2010
GREAT photos...I gotta get me one of those suits and just pose around for black and white photos with my goose! too cool! I would LOVE to get my hands on a set of THOSE rear wheels, that just looks sick
I believe that car was the one on display at the DeTomaso factory museum. I'm not sure where it is now. Santiago DeTomaso may have it. You might check Dana Hansen's Mangusta registry at www.mangustainternational.com
<<It's a 12-page article with 15 color pictures >> any chance you could post a couple of those color pics here? I know I'd love to see them
The April 1968 issue of "Sports Car Graphic" has a large article on the early Mangustas, including pics of the prototype #1, and a big pic of #3 on the cover along with many other pics of #3, as well as descriptions of the 6 prototypes including references to sunroofs, removable sunroofs and plexiglass windows. I do not know if there were actually 6 prototypes but the article says that after the first one "there were 5 more built" There are quite a biit of differences between the #1 prototype, the next 5 prototypes, and regular Mangustas. Are you interested in knowing them? Image Unavailable, Please Login
According to several sources, they did build 6 prototypes. One was the open top convertible version prototype. The no.# 1 prototype had wider rear wheels and huge Webber's. It did not have an engine cover, so you could see the motor if you looked into the back window. It was supposed to have been a monster, with alot more horsepower than the production version. Holman and Moody did the engine work according to one source. The problem is no one seems to know the serial number of no. # 1. I think they might have made more than one Mangusta prototype with the glass sunroof. Tom Tanner/Scale Designs/Ferrari Expo 2010 model/photo contest-Chicago April 2010
I was looking at some Mangusta pictures last night. I thought the car in the "Italian Cars" magazine was supposed to the original prototype, but it probably isn't. The car on the stand at Torino in 1966 did have a glass sunroof, and it did have the engine with the four big Webers on it, but it didn't have any exhaust pipes showing in the pictures I have seen, so it was probably not a runner at that point.
yes, but in the Mangusta world, facts are often just what some magazine said. In my opinion, which may not be correct, the "Spyder" was one of the prototypes with the roof cut off. Maybe even #3 (look at the front marker lights) I don't know about the wider rear wheels or the hp. Remember that Alejandro was (no offense) a world class BSer, and if nothing else his 289 hp claims would have made it probably the highest grossing hp of any 289 ever built at that time, eclipsing the Shelby race motors (Hmmmmm) Also, regarding prototypes, if there was only one set of wide rear wheels, then the prototype #1 and the unknown prototype with the Monza filler cap are the same car. I think it is/was called a Ghia 5000 if nothing else. This is covered in the article, and I'm sure some people could get heads together and figure it out, but my estimate FWIW is 3 prototypes and 2 production cars (one of which is the "Dean Martin Jr" car) have a sunroof. Image Unavailable, Please Login
Jerry and Tommy: Here is a set of those rear wheels. http://wikicars.org/en/De_Tomaso_Sport_5000 Image Unavailable, Please Login
They used those same mag wheels on the original Lancia Stratos 2nd place Targa Florio car and the Group 4 Maserati Bora 1973, so they must have made many sets. Tom Tanner/Scale Designs/Ferrari Expo 2010 model/photo contest-Chicago April 2010
is anyone aware of any of the 'prototype's' being a pop up headlight version..in 1967? there is a claim a car like this exists. also what is THE tire of choice for Goose owners these days? I know of the XWX and Firestone racing tire remakes (Longstone), but does anyone else have anything worth knowing about that I should research? Thanks in advance for sharing any wisdom
my ridiculously spectacular Mangusta is being offered up for sale - here on F-chat, check the ads...very sad day , don't ask why, just acquire the amazing thing.
cool a goose with dino/daytona type seats? anyhow when i was last at the factory and saw the prototype, i recall virtually everybody panel was different from the production version. its also much lower than the production goose's. i think the exhaust was rectangle type flared into the body and had ventilated lower valance?? its been a few years so my memory is alittle fuzzy on this one. the rears wheels on the proto are much wider than the production version (ive seen a few standard cars with this wider rear wheel they look perfect on the standard cars) and i believe the fronts on the proto were 8x15 (same as standard rears). these campys on the mangusta were standard aftermarket racing wheels found on many period GR4 cars. the early alloy bodies lancia stratos proto had them on the targa florio/giro cars. al constiono use to sell them here in the states. he was an offical campy importer and he had them various cars including the camero and 911 race cars he raced at Daytona. these fantastic style wheels came in all sorts of widths and offsets with custom order PCD's. im not sure if tecnomagesio every made them although they would cast any of the old molds on special order back in the 90's. i would be great to replicate these fantastic styled wheels without hole so people can drill there own bolt patterns. Keep the great pics coming Cheers hf
Mike, That's very sad news, I know how much you love your car. Cherish the time you shared with her, hopefuly she'll find a deserving custodian.
Jack - thank you....thanks again guys, I appreciate the support giving up one of my babies, lol. You guys are cool, I'll get over it, I have had some amazing rides over the years, so letting 'em go is old hat....some amazing women too, lol! They are harder to let go :/ ...on second thought...haha, the cars ARE more difficult to give up! Jack - How'd the SA crowd react to the US soccer team's run at Confederations Cup? Looking like they will be back for the CUP!
Just for fun, I looked through some old FAZA/Cosentino literature here at home, and found the Mangusta-style wheels in a few of his ads, but the ads are so sloppy you usually can't tell what he's talking about. It appears that he at least claimed he could get these wheels (#40802) in widths from 9" to 12", or even up to 15" (another ad). This was almost 40 years ago. Image Unavailable, Please Login
Here is the artwork we made for the wheels. They are now pattered in 1/24th scale with amazing crisp detail. We made some slight detail changes before printing. The wheel bolts are different for the Mangusta, Stratos and Bora Group 4, so the wheel center shows blank in the photo. The 914 wheels photo you show are slightly different than the Mangusta wheels. Tom Tanner/Scale Designs/Ferrari Expo 2010 model/photo contest-Chicago April 2010 Image Unavailable, Please Login
Mike, Although I am Dutch originally, and the name Ajax rings a bell, I really don't know the first thing about soccer. Oh, I know we have Ajax here in Cape Town as well You guys can have all the cups you want! Apologies for the o/t post.
nice find. stunningly beautiful wheel. if your think his ads are sloppy and difficult to understand your should try talking to him...lol still love the guy with all his faults. cheers hf
That's very interesting. I wanted to come up with some more accurate looking wheels for a Mangusta model I have, so I took dimensions off my full size Mangusta and built a CAD model. Then I exported an STL file and had it printed on a 3D printer at 1/3 full size. Here is the CAD model and shots of the 1/3 miniature. Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
