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Marchionne says no V12 Turbo

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  1. tomc

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    Most hydrogen comes from steam reforming of fossil fuels, and is not a very "green" process. Production of hydrogen via light driven methods, particularly the splitting of water using sunlight, that'd be epic.
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  2. LARRYH

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    if the turbo is not driven by exhaust then it is essentially a supercharger in that it is compressing air(i.e. fuel) . The current turbos set up is exhaust driven with the theory being it is getting the last bit of energy from the exhaust and with the side effect of at the same time muting the exhaust ..
    my preference of all the choices is a high compression NA engine like the F12 13:1 NA12..

    I must admit I have a RS7 also and it has a great but different sound from the twin turbo V8 gets the snap crackle and pop of an NA engine....
     
  3. TheMayor

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    Exactly. They take natural gas and break it down. The get Hydrogen and.... Co2 (aka greenhouse gases) which are released into the atmosphere.

    Eventually it may be possible to split water to get hydrogen and oxygen but right now it takes more energy to do it than you get back.
     
  4. frefan

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    Electric turbo perhaps but electric supercharger is snake oil just use a regular supercharger.
     
  5. technom3

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    Well... ill flip the script on you.

    If the compressor is not being driven by the crank than it is not a supercharger...

    So what we have is neither a supercharger or a turbocharger

    It would more resemble a turbocharger in appearance but yes in functionality a turbo is driven by exhaust gas and a supercharger is driven by crank revolutions so it would be neither.

    Again, it would be smaller and more compact and very likely would not be placed on top of the engine in the valley like a supercharger and would be more inline with the intake stream.
     
  6. technom3

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    Yes... and electric supercharger would be stupid. Superchargers are not very good to begin with. Way too many shortcomings... and if you were designing a whole new system that didn't have to use crank revolutions than you would absolutely NOT put it directly on top of the engine.

    Superchargers are a great way to get more power inefficently but on the whole... they are really not a great solution for a problem. Even traditional superchargers are just **** when it comes to efficiency. DO they work? Sure... but damn they are dumb...
     
  7. riccardone

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    Totally. That's such primitive technology. Ok as an after market mod on a camaro V8, makes for a fun unpretentious car on a budget, but on a Ferrari, no thanks.
     

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