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  1. redcaruser

    redcaruser Formula 3
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    There are two transmissions available on the GranTurismo Sport: a six-speed, automatic ZF set up equipped with MC Auto Shift software (!) or the sequential MC Shift six-speed gearbox with a twin-disc clutch (electro-actuated gearbox, same system as in the Ferrari 599). The ZF transmission results in smooth gear changes without penalising performance with 49% of the weight up front and 51% in the rear; the sequential transmission is more suited to drivers looking for sportier handling and a closer rapport with the car. Here the weight split is 47% front - 53% rear thanks to the transaxle set up that shifts the gearbox to the rear.

    Automatic versions of the GranTurismo have a dedicated system to manage gear shifts. On these cars, MC Auto Shift software allows on-the-limit gear changes, double declutch when changing up and the activation of launch control for sprint starts. Changes continue inside with the digital rev counter and a sportier set up for the accelerator.

    GranTurismo (2007–): automatic ZF gearbox six-speed transmission
    GranTurismo S (2008–2012): MC-shift semi-automatic transmission with transaxle layout. It was available in the North American market only for 2009 MY.
    GranTurismo MC (2009–2010): It is a limited production car based on the GranTurismo, came with MC-shift.
    GranTurismo S Automatic (2009–2012): with ZF 6-speed automatic transmission.
    GranTurismo MC Sport Line (2009–): available with both gearboxes.
    GranTurismo Sport (2012–): Replacing both the GranTurismo S and S Automatica, the ZF six-speed automatic gearbox is standard, while the six-speed sequential transaxle is available as an option. The latter has steering wheel-mounted paddle shifters, a feature that’s optional with the automatic gearbox.
    GranTurismo MC Stradale (2011–) (Limited Production): The MC Race Shift 6-speed robotised manual gearbox (which shares its electronics and some of its hardware from the Ferrari 599GTO) usually operates in an "auto" mode, but the driver can switch this to 'sport' or 'race' (shifts in 60 milliseconds in 'race' mode), which affects gearbox operations, suspension, traction control, and even the sound of the engine.
     
  2. Maserati Blue

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    I insist I'm right, just give a call to your local dealer and ask, they'll explain how very few cars have the MC-Shift gearbox.

    The "F1" system in all Maseratis and Ferraris, is basically the same. It is a Magneti Marelli system, that was fitted in many FIAT brands, including Alfa Romeo (we call it SeleSpeed under the Alfa Romeo brand).

    The early versions (F355 era) was a complete disaster, but it became better with later iterations (360 Modena and 4200 Cambiocorsa, then GranSport and F430). Eventually, the latest iteration was fitted in the California, the Quattroporte and the GranTurismo (all use the same clutch part number 228738).

    The MC-Shift variant is a different design, much more aggressive shifting and much faster changes. It was fitted in cars like the 599 and the MC Stradale. The MC-Shift was also used in some other made-to-order variants of the GranTurismo, like the MC Sport. Of course there are even more variations based on the geographical location of the dealer.
     
  3. Sledge4.2

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    Driving them?

    The information I received about projected clutch wear came from a Ferrari certified master mechanic who worked for a large Ferrari dealership for 20+ years, and now is out on his own. He knows these cars like the back of his hand.
     
  4. MASR04

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    Wikipedia - seems to be wrong - the 2007 models did not come with ZF transmissions. I am with Maserati Blue on this!
     
  5. DonJuan348

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    I read the opposite ...it was introduced with ZF tranny but it didn't have rev match feature .
     
  6. MASR04

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    I talked to a tech at Maserati Raleigh who said it had a clutch in 07. No clutch in 08 with options of the Cambiocorsa and 599 gearbox..

    Rev match sounds exotic - Doubt I can afford a 2011. Plus, I am not buying an exotic that new - still plenty of depreciation - I'd lose my ass!
     
  7. DonJuan348

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    GT didn't arrive in America until 2008 only auto ...clutch option was only in Europe ... 2009 limited run of 300 had 599 tranny
     
  8. MASR04

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    Payoff 328 - Complete Service - Sell - Purchase GT S - Enjoy - Sell - F430

    *Plan
     
  9. DonJuan348

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    Interesting ... Masi then Ferrari then back to Masi then Ferrari.

    Before I buy another Ferrari ,there are a few vintage cars I plan to buy.

    After i sell the Cayenne ... project car and Road King will be next so Looks like this year 360 won't get much use .
     
  10. arizonaitalian

    arizonaitalian Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Lots of wiki and hearsay. I don't have any proof either ;-)

    But I'm with the ones that say its auto slush box for virtually all GT's EXCEPT for a number of 2009 models that came with a F1 automated manual. This is for the US only (Euro has the F1 in several other years). I'm also a believer that those few cars (some have said up to 300, but who knows?) all shared the same F1 version, and it was the 599 version. The single disk slower automated cambiocorsa did not make it to the US.

    I also think that 30,000 miles will prove to be the "over" with regard to life of clutch on F1 transmissions. I loved the comment about not seeing 599's with 30,000 miles complain about clutches...err, thats because there are virtually no 599's with 30,000 miles :)

    Higher torque motors seem to get longer lives out of the F1 clutches (meaning v12s and perhaps the maser v8) but the 360, 355, 430 are seeing many clutches done well before 30,000.
     
  11. MASR04

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    I have my own conspiracy theory on said clutch scenario. Cambiocorsa clutch in the Masr Coupe is weak also!
     

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