I looked up Ferrari production and it is 8400 a year and many models have between 1800-15,000 built over the lifetime of the production run.
Rarity and scarcity (or desirability) are two different things. Something can be rare, but not scarce. A Pontiac Solstice, for example, is rare, but not scarce (as it's not highly desired). Same could be said for the MC20.
Don't let the MC20 on the link fool you ... this is about more than just the MC20's depreciation. It's kind of an amalgamation of all the petty Maserati gripes emanating from automotive gossip mongers but at the end he does a review of the Gran Tourismo Trofeo which he loves emphatically, very few gripes but he then says he can't wait for the massive depreciation so that he can afford to buy one. So if, professionally, you keep dising the Marque then eventually you can actually afford to buy one? How professional of him. He should up his game and ethics and study Harry Metcalf's approach. Enjoy
I was at a large Maserati dealer this morning and the salesman that I was told to see said that the first year of production was no more than 500 total units and that 2023 could have been a total of 2000 with Cielos and Spiders mixed in,he also said that there were very few in 2024.He stated that Maserati will not release production numbers so everything is speculation.
Coupes 2022 - 500 (per sales person) 2023 - 622 (assume 50% of 1,244 Units are Coupes) 2024 - 175 (if coupe stopped in march, and Maserati produces at full capacity of 1,400 units and 1/2 are coupes). Max Coupes = 1,297 Total Units. US is about 1/3 of Maserati's total market share but let's say 1/2 came to the US... Est US Coupes: 649 Units + 20 Icona + 20 Leggenda = 689 Units. FYI, 2023 sales of 1,244 is a published figure. Here's the link.
Someone inferred the lack of desirability of the MC20 a few posts back and I respectfully disagree. When Ford GT/Carrara GT/Porsche 918 came out, none of them were "desired". Market adjusted and price tanked. We all know how "undesirable" these cars are today. My hypothesis on the MC20's depreciation is primarily attributed to the original buyers and cheap money. Many wanted a quick "flip" and financed the deal with balloon financing. Fast forward 24 month: the balloon payment is due, rates are high and cheap money is gone. I suspect many are forced to sell. Back in April there were OVER 80 coupes for sale on CarGuru and today there are only 34 coupes. This is an indication of a stabilizing market. My wife who's not a car person said it best: "it has the good looks of your Lambo LP640, the brutal acceleration of your Tesla and rides smooth like a german sedan (in GT mode)." MC20 is scarce in supply and rare in sighting. To call it undesirable is like a fat girl calling a lingerie model ugly...to each's own.
I haven't been to Boardwalk Ferrari/Maserati lately, but a year ago they had at least a dozen in inventory. Now looking at their website they don't have any. Do they really not have any new or used ones for sale now? Maybe they're trying not to deal with them because depreciated so fast? https://www.boardwalkmaserati.com/
Definately NOT true for the FGT, all of the first year cars sold quickly and most above list. These are the 10-100 mile cars that will never be driven. The 2nd year cars sold pretty well, but sales slowed at the end so they only built 4,038 of the planned 4,500. So it was nothing like the new NSX or MC20, which were both DOA. I think the CGT sold slowly because I remember sitting in one at the dealer and rowing through the gears…..and they didn’t seem to care that a Corvette owner was messing around with their $393,000 car.
BaT sale stuck at 182.5 for over two hours now. 5 minutes left. Either gonna be a tremendous deal below 200k or RNM, again. Tempted to get in, but don't think I will . . . . first scrape or scar on either CF bumper/fascia and I'd be bawlin'. UPDATE: RNM at $185K.
Sorry, no. The MC20 is rare. But not scarce. The resale market underscores that. This one on BAT ended in RNM twice in the past 7 months. Never could reach 200k, even for a car with a 312k MSRP. https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2022-maserati-mc20-44-2/
I passed on a '06 with all 3 options for $125K in 2009/2010. So it was around 65% of MSRP (I recall it was around $190~195K). Still kicking myself.
When a MC20 hits 150k, I’m seriously going to think about picking one up. It would make for a fun weekend car.
MSRP was $160k for all 4 options. Yes, the financial meltdown was tough on everything, and I've heard of similar stories. Hard to blame you for passing though, I actually got laid off the first week of 2010. I've owned my FGT for 4.5 years, and it is EVERYTHING they say it is. I got kinda lucky to find mine just as the pandemic broke out. It had 28k miles and a couple of stories but I couldn't pass it up at $182k...and it was loaded with high dollar modifications. I could easily net $30k to go back to stock. Highly recommend it.
I think that would be an awesome move and I'm building up a store of dry powder myself. The biggest impediment are all the $250k 720s spiders running around.
Another slow mover in period was the Lexus LFA. Remember going to a dealer once for an RX300 and they had 3 of them in the showroom with big markdown stickers.
OK, but please don`t forget, that Carrera GT and 918 were made in quite limited numbers. And Ford GT are much below the current price figuers of the Porsche... On the other points I fully agree...(well, despite the Tesla....)
Monterey Car Week 2024: Maserati set for world premiere of new super sports car Image Unavailable, Please Login Modena, Italy – August 1, 2024 – On Friday, August 16, in the setting of the traditional and unmistakable “The Quail, A Motorsports Gathering” event in California, Maserati is preparing to unveil its newest creation to the world. Resulting from the Trident's experience on track and dedicated to those who do not wish to sacrifice extraordinary performance on the road, this new car guarantees innovative technological solutions and impressive aerodynamic performance, typical of the fastest and most exciting racing cars. The Maserati super sports car will be presented as part of one of the most anticipated and prestigious motorsports gatherings of the year, an event that brings together enthusiasts from all around the world, breathtaking models, as well as previews and exclusive auctions: Monterey Car Week, due to take place in California from August 14 to 19. This powerful car – designed, developed, and produced entirely in Italy by Maserati – inherits the racing spirit of the Maserati GT2, the spearhead of the Modena brand's racing production; at the same time, it is a further evolution of the MC20, the Trident’s halo car, first equipped with the unmistakable V6 Nettuno engine. The MC20 project represents state of the art of Maserati performance. From the outset of its technical development, a racing evolution was envisaged that would come to life in two directions, with the track version and its road counterpart, developed in close synergy by the same team that shares technological know-how and certain specific components. The highly anticipated new leading light in the Maserati range will be the focus of this electrifying American show, which offers glamour, style, refined elegance, and stunning array of classic and modern cars that win over crowds and enchant the most discerning of collectors. Enthusiasts will find themselves before a one-of-a-kind car with an unmistakable aesthetic, defined by a wide range of customisation options, with details typical of a racing car without sacrificing the comfort and hallmarks of road models. A car destined to be on the wish list of customers attracted by the most extreme super sports cars, is ready to welcome drivers and make them feel like a true racer, even off the track. The world premiere of this new Maserati, due to take place on Friday, August 16 at 9:12 am PST, will be introduced by Giovanni Perosino, the brand’s Chief Marketing and Communications Officer, along with Klaus Busse, Maserati Head of Design. The exclusive setting of The Quail will also play host to the MC20 Icona and MCXtrema. MC20 Icona, a special series produced as a limited edition and inspired by the 2004 MC12 Stradale, was presented in June 2024 and will be seen for the first time in person by the North American public. MCXtrema, unveiled at The Quail in 2023, is the most formidable Maserati racing car, type-approved for track use only: dedicated to the excellence of gentleman drivers and fans of racing cars, only 62 units have been produced, the first of which will be delivered at the Laguna Seca circuit during Monterey Car Week 2024. https://www.media.maserati.com/releases/1867
They do seem to come up with a lot names for the same basic car. I stopped going to Monterey Car week as it's too much of a zoo now, also expensive as hell for what you get. Over the years we had a lot of fun at these events ... but things change. I'll be quite pleasantly shocked if this debut turns out to be a big success.
It appears It’s going to have the over the top look at me styling that youtubers want, the question is will it have the 700 + hp the bench (keyboard) racers want?
