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MASSA DOESN'T SUCK

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  1. furoni

    furoni F1 World Champ

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    and they where not the only ones....
     
  2. TifosiUSA

    TifosiUSA F1 Veteran

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    Who else ya got? Karthikeyan? Ralph Firman?
     
  3. DEAF1

    DEAF1 Karting

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    Out qualified Alonso again....

    Well done Felipe...
     
  4. tifosi12

    tifosi12 Four Time F1 World Champ
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    Cool. Another ten points more to his WDC score.
     
  5. Neonzapper

    Neonzapper F1 Rookie

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    This season has been an interesting turn of events at Ferrari.
     
  6. PowerSlide

    PowerSlide Formula 3

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    whoops must be bad for alonso to be outqualify again
     
  7. TifosiUSA

    TifosiUSA F1 Veteran

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    Why?

    LOL
     
  8. DeSoto

    DeSoto F1 Veteran

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    Boy, Massa did suck big time today. Starts 5th, finish 10th, giving up important points to Mercedes. His team mate starts 8th, finish 4th, despite being held by Massa for a few laps and having the worse pit stop strategy (a mistake by Ferrari, they should have told Massa to f*** off and let Alonso pass).
     
  9. TheMayor

    TheMayor Ten Time F1 World Champ
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    My opinion of Massa since Ferrari decided to drop him

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWukihVp3fQ]Alien dog - "Animal Instinct". - YouTube[/ame]
     
  10. Simon^2

    Simon^2 F1 World Champ

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    Yeah,... well done Felipe.
    Now the race... Massa P10. Alonso P4.
    Bravo Felipe! :rolleyes:
     
  11. tifosi12

    tifosi12 Four Time F1 World Champ
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    I can only hope Massa is testing new equipment for 2014 during the race.

    Otherwise there is no point in keeping him in that seat for the remaining races.
     
  12. Neonzapper

    Neonzapper F1 Rookie

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    Ifs, Ands, or Buts... Massa without that drive-through penalty- who knows?
     
  13. DEAF1

    DEAF1 Karting

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    How did he screw himself by speeding down pit lane... Forget to hold the "happy button" down?
     
  14. classic308

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    Who's fault was that? Yet another race day f up by Phil........could use those points to beat MB.....why qualify well if your going to consistently shyt the bed on race day?
     
  15. Igor Ound

    Igor Ound F1 Veteran

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    The only thing he needs testing is his good bye trolley
     
  16. DeSoto

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    They should have fired him right now for not obeying team orders but unfortunately they need his points for the constructors championship and replacing him at this point of the season would not deliver results. It´s a no win situation for the team.
     
  17. DF1

    DF1 Three Time F1 World Champ

    Since this is actually a SUPPORT thread for Felipe lol!!! Japanese GP: Fernando Alonso downplays Felipe Massa team orders row - F1 news - AUTOSPORT.com
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    Japanese GP: Fernando Alonso downplays Felipe Massa team orders row
    By Jonathan Noble Sunday, October 13th 2013, 11:12 GMT

    Fernando Alonso insisted he had no problem with Felipe Massa appearing to ignore team orders in the Japanese Grand Prix.

    Massa was given the radio message "multi-function strategy A, now please" by race engineer Rob Smedley in the early stages of the Suzuka race.

    That was viewed as a clear order for Massa to give up his then-fifth position to Alonso as they moved to battle their way through the field.

    Massa did not move over though, and eventually Alonso had to fight his way through with an overtaking move down the start/finish straight on lap 20.

    Although Massa suggested after the race that he was not happy with the order, Alonso said that he was not upset by the actions of his Brazilian team-mate.

    "No. Not really," said Alonso, when asked if he was unhappy. "We cannot make a big thing about this.

    "We are racing and whatever we do today, we finished more or less in the same positions because we could not achieve anything more.

    "I don't know exactly what happened, but zero problems."

    Massa has made it clear since it was announced he was being dropped by Ferrari that he is focused on his own ambitions as he bids to secure a race seat for 2014.

    Alonso reckoned that there can be no complaints about everyone in Ferrari pushing for their own success, however.

    "We are trying to do our best - Felipe, me and the team - to score as many points as possible," he said.

    "Sometimes it is easy, and sometimes it is more difficult, especially when the performance is not super.

    "It is never easy when we start, or are fighting, for 7th or 8th places. It will be nice to come back to the old days at Ferrari, where we were fighting for first and second, and then decide in the races who wins.

    "Or do like Red Bull does - one car does two stops, one car does three stops, and they finish first and second. This is a much easier life."

    Massa declined to elaborate on the specifics of the team order, but did suggest the situation was not totally comfortable.

    "You are never happy with instructions," he said.

    When asked if the matter would be discussed with the team, he said: "We always discuss, for sure.

    "But I was happy today. It was unfortunate for the race the drive through and what has happened in the race. It was not over any instruction, he [Alonso] overtook me on the track."
     
  18. TifosiUSA

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    Enough said.
     
  19. PSk

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    Yeah, that went well ...

    Not everybody can see when their time is up. A family member needs to have a heart to heart.
    Pete
     
  20. freshmeat

    freshmeat F1 Veteran

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    I heard from a credible source, who I cannot disclose, that discussions between Lotus and Massa's management have ended and unfortunately not in his favor.

    With the bold claims he has made in the press would he reconsider staying in F1 by racing on a midfield team then like Sauber/Force India? Or even a backmarker like Caterham?
     
  21. tifosi12

    tifosi12 Four Time F1 World Champ
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    Thanks for the update.

    From what I'm hearing Hulk can basically sign at Lotus if he wants to. It's only a $ question now
     
  22. Remy Zero

    Remy Zero Two Time F1 World Champ

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    Sauber and Force India are not too bad, if he doesn't get Lotus, as claimed. If not, he should retire and head off with Webber.
     
  23. Edward 96GTS

    Edward 96GTS F1 World Champ
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    does massa have big $$ sponsors he can take with him? if not, doesnt look good for him.
    ed
     
  24. Remy Zero

    Remy Zero Two Time F1 World Champ

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    It seems, he does.
     
  25. ren0312

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    Has anybody considered that he may be having micro black outs tha last less than 0.5 of a second due to his injury that has gone undetected, which is the cause of his race mistakes?
     

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