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MASSA DOESN'T SUCK

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  1. VIZSLA

    VIZSLA Four Time F1 World Champ
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  2. DEAF1

    DEAF1 Karting

    Nov 2, 2011
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    Massa!!!! Great season finish for him...
     
  3. PowerSlide

    PowerSlide Formula 3

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    he help ferrari beating mclaren in the WCC these last few races although some can say down to mclaren dnf but still good to see him going so well
     
  4. mousecatcher

    mousecatcher Formula 3

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    100% implausible. WCC = $$$. WDC = nothing.
     
  5. PSk

    PSk F1 World Champ

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    Wrong.

    WCC = minor $'s from Bernie's TV show. WDC = huge money from sponsors. Sponsors need faces and personalities. Ask Vettel how he is shown off in appearances, etc.
    Pete
     
  6. VIZSLA

    VIZSLA Four Time F1 World Champ
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    Yup.
    While the teams collect from Bernie big bucks for placing in the WCC they collect mega bucks from sponsors. The ratio varies from team to team.
     
  7. mousecatcher

    mousecatcher Formula 3

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    ok you got me there
     
  8. DEAF1

    DEAF1 Karting

    Nov 2, 2011
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    Can't wait till next year!!! Felipe is going to kick some A$$!!!!!!


    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0MuXTlfa2w&feature=youtube_gdata_player[/ame]
     
  9. Aircon

    Aircon Ten Time F1 World Champ
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  10. DEAF1

    DEAF1 Karting

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    Didn't make it..... Nothing wrong with a little ACDC though..
     
  11. DEAF1

    DEAF1 Karting

    Nov 2, 2011
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    HAPPY??


    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLd6m15wSMs&feature=youtube_gdata_player[/ame]
     
  12. Aircon

    Aircon Ten Time F1 World Champ
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    You really are deaf :)
     
  13. Aircon

    Aircon Ten Time F1 World Champ
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  14. DEAF1

    DEAF1 Karting

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    Alrighty then..... Lol..
     
  15. PSk

    PSk F1 World Champ

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    Maybe he licks ...

    Pete
     
  16. DF1

    DF1 Three Time F1 World Champ

    Sunday 16th December 2012
    The Fall and Rise of Felipe Massa

    (http://www.planetf1.com/features/8338192/The-Fall-And-Rise-Of-Felipe-Massa)

    Felipe Massa's had a funny old season. For the first half of the GP calendar he was almost certainly going to be replaced in 2013. In the second half he became the perfect team-mate.

    Things were so bad between Felipe and his under-performing F2012 at the start of the campaign that there was talk of him being replaced by (Ferrari protégé) Sergio Perez by mid-season.

    Luckily for Felipe, the man they approached to be Fernando's No.2 - Mark Webber - turned them down. And then Massa went and scored points in all of the last 10 grands prix, helping Ferrari to secure second place in the constructors' championship. As Eddie Jordan repeatedly said after each race - "Felipe - he's got his mojo back". Yes, he had indeed got his "amulet consisting of a flannel bag containing one or more magical charms" back.

    In the second half of the season he began to thrive, particularly on anti-clockwise circuits. He was quicker than Alonso in Austin, Korea and Brazil - something that seemed unthinkable at the start of the year. And he made the Saint Stephen-like sacrifice of taking the unnecessary grid penalty at the USGP.

    Now, during the Ferrari Christmas festivities Luca Montezemolo has lavished praise upon the driver who everyone thought was heading for the door marked porta di uscita

    "I don't know where you went in the first part of the year," di Montezemolo said to Massa in his speech to the assembled scuderia, "but I am very pleased you came back. It meant we were able to finish ahead of major teams in the constructors' classification, but it is also important for next year."

    "Fernando had an extraordinary season and I am sorry not to have given him a car that was quick as well as reliable. In 2013 the aim, not just for me but for all of you, is to immediately have a car that's capable of winning."

    And with a wind tunnel that's calibrated correctly.

    It would have been interesting to see what happened if Mark Webber had said yes to Ferrari and lined up with his friend Fernando Alonso in 2013. Because Mark has emphasised very strongly that he's not at Red Bull to give points or positions away to Sebastian Vettel. Had he moved to Maranello then it would have been obligatory to realise that Fernando was faster than him, friendship or no friendship. So why did he even entertain the thought...?

    That's all what-if territory, the fact is that now Felipe has signed for 2013, he could easily be retained for 2014 and 2015 or even 2016 when Alonso's Ferrari contract runs out. Because who else would be prepared to put their career on hold to be Alonso's domestique? Massa's had his shot at being World Champ.

    Nico Hulkenberg is good but he wants to win. Alonso is unlikely to accept Vettel or Hamilton as team-mates as they'd be too competitive. Ferrari tester Bianchi is not experienced enough. Robert Kubica doesn't have enough arm movement to get back to F1 yet. Webber's said no already and Perez is committed to McLaren for the near future. Rosberg is good but probably not at Massa's level. And Jenson Button won't leave McLaren now he's the new No.1 at Woking.

    Let's not forget that Fernando Alonso has put in some awe-inspiring drives this year yet on some occasions Felipe was clearly faster, even if he wasn't allowed to get past his team leader. There's not many on the grid that could do that.

    So providing Ferrari doesn't produce another untameable beast next year, Felipe Massa could be attending Ferrari Christmas Celebrations for quite a few more years to come, with a series of one-year contracts. Which will certainly please the people at Ferrari World in Abu Dhabi. Felipe's face is plastered all over it.

    Andrew Davies
     
  17. DEAF1

    DEAF1 Karting

    Nov 2, 2011
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    Look out boys!!!! We have a month and a half till Massa gets to show his stuff and give ole Zo and everybody else a run for their money. Proper off season aero tunnel work, chassis improvements and a fitting set up should do Massa good!!!!
     
  18. tifosi12

    tifosi12 Four Time F1 World Champ
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    Willing to bet on it?

    A case of beer he won't.
     
  19. SRT Mike

    SRT Mike Two Time F1 World Champ

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    Hope springs eternal.

    Massa has years of suck and a few half-decent performances, and now "he's back! He's going to be an unstoppable force in 2013!".

    I'll bet against that every day of the week :)
     
  20. tifosi12

    tifosi12 Four Time F1 World Champ
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    Some never learn.
     
  21. Igor Ound

    Igor Ound F1 Veteran

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    The only good thing about Massa is his manager.

    I see it as a good way of recycling money.

    Too bad Bianchi has the same manager. :)
     
  22. DEAF1

    DEAF1 Karting

    Nov 2, 2011
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    Ha ha,,,, tooo easy to bait the hook...

    Haters will always hate...
     
  23. NJB13

    NJB13 Formula 3

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    Felipe's going to have a good year. Much better than a lot of people at this Tifosi site seem to think :)

    Forza Ferrari
    Forza Felipe
    Forza Fernando
     
  24. tatcat

    tatcat F1 World Champ
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    yeah!
     
  25. tifosi12

    tifosi12 Four Time F1 World Champ
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    As long as it is his last year with the team I'm fine.
     

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