MASSA Intends To Bid For 2008 WDC

4.
On 1-19-2007 the following was stated
In 2006 Renault had two top drivers sharing an equal status.

So if Massa finished 3rd behind FA and MS and ahead of the top driver equal to FA, that still makes him a mid pack mediocre driver, that has shown no improvement. Oh and Renault had the better car.

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5.
2-15-07 the following comment was made. Quote:
>I want to see Ferrari have the strongest line-up on the grid but I don't believe that they currently do. How many of you would rather see Button in that second seat? I know I would. JPM? Absolutely. Even DC, Ralf or Trulli would be a better choice, frankly. Anyone of them can get more out of the Ferrari than Massa currently does. Running fifth in the race and picking up the occasional point here and there is not what a driver should be doing in a car as excellent as the Ferrari.<

DC? Ralf? Trulli? What are you on? I would like to try it.

"Running fifth in the race and picking up the occasional point here and there"- what racing series are you watching?

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>The recent issue of R&T has an article by Sam Posey in which he ranks the top 10 F1 drivers for this season. Very interesting.

Ranks Alonso first. followed by Kimi, Button and Massa.<

Discuss.
This is the response from Senna3xWC who was "for Kimi the whole time"
quote:

>I predict this is the finsihing order for the WDC in 2007.<

 

After the first race of last season. I love the last part of his post
quote:

>
In one race, ONE RACE, Kimi demonstrated who is #1 at Ferrari. Massa screwed the pooch in qualifying (and not for the last time in 2007, mark my words), he managed the 8th fastest lap in the race, being outpaced by F1 giants such as Heidfeld, Fisi and Rosberg, and demonstrating to everyone why he is lucky to be behind the wheel of a Ferrari. I can think of 10 drivers on the grid who could have done a better job than Massa.

I am going to save this post. I figure I will be copying it several times this season on Mondays after GPs.

MARK MY WORDS: Massa will never win a race where Kimi doesn't have a problem.<

Well, how many mondays did you use it?
I marked your words. Halo

 

8.
And knowledge of course paid off. well, sort of...........
quote
>My prediction:

Hamilton will win at least one GP this season.

Massa will not.<

Senna3xWC's insightful prediction made on 4-9-07

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9.
A bet I am sure no one took from feeling bad about taking Senna3xWC's money
quote:

Originally Posted by ferraridude615 View Post
Massa should pick up 3 or 4
(Senna3xWC)
Name your price, I will bet whatever you wish to wager that this does not happen.

Cool man I should have bet your Ferrari on it.

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and the conditions of the bet:
Originally Posted by ferraridude615 View Post
I will admit that Senna is the greatest F1 driver while you have to agree that Schumacher is the best.

So now we all know that Senna3xWC agrees that MS IS the best

 

10.
My favorite quote of Senna 3xWC:
>
I like my position and I am as comfortable with it as ever. Don't get too cocky or you will find yourself eating crow by the end of the season.<

Well said on 4-16-07. How was the crow?

 

11.
Let's move on to the stepneygate times
On 7-11-07

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Quote:
Originally Posted by PhilNotHill View Post
Whether there will be any action against McL remains to be seen at this point.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ambassiatore View Post
...for me, if Neale was aware...then they all knew and McLaren was involved deeply...even on the so called payment.
(Senna 3xWC)
Despite the fact that no evidence exists that McLaren was complicit in any of this, some folks still insist on sticking their heads in the sand...

And where was your head stuck?

 

...and later on the same day
quote
>My prediction is that nothing happens to McLaren because McLaren did nothing wrong to begin with.<

Suuuurre

quote
>
Apparently you haven't considered the fact that once Neale found out, Coughlan was suspended? Or that McLaren immediately distanced itself from Coughlan's actions because they were not in any way complicit?

Naaah, then you McLaren bashers would have nothing to whine about. And you guys complain about Alonso, he doesn't hold a candle to some of the whiners on these very boards...<

 

By the way what is wrong with bashing McLaren on FERRARIchat? Please don't ask whats wrong with doing it vice versa.

 

12.
Oh it gets better and better
quote:
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Hmmmm...

So McLaren waited until they found evidence of wrongdoing before taking punitive action...and this is wrong???

I would hate to work for a guy like you if you would suspend me before I did anything wrong, on the mere hint of an allegation?

You guys are all over the place ont his issue. It seems to me that no matter what actions McLaren took, you would find some reason to see this as proof of their complicity. This whole debate is going from the ridiculous to the patently absurd.

Face it, you tinfoil-hat conspiracy theorists, this is the action of two rogue employees. That's it. McLaren did exactly the right thing once they learned of this episode and took action against the rogue employee as well as opened their doors to the FIA's investigators.

Why don't you guys go look for UFOs or something more productive than beating this dead horse.
Reply With Quote<

 

It appears that someone has enough time to track down everything except backing up his own inflammatory statements.

 

I dont know.....Looks more like you should have Elmer fud go shoot a truck load of crow for you.

 

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I am confused? What is it that I am supposed to eat crow about?

 

13. Here is where the BS started flying.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ambassiatore View Post
they broke the sporting code, since "Article 3.1 states it is the responsability of the team that each member abides by the rules and regulations of the FIA"...
(Senna3xWC)
Is Ferrari responsible for Stepney's actions under this same Article?
(Chaos)
i dont see why they wouldnt be.

if everything stated is correct then members of both teams have acted illegally (and in a fashion to bring the sport into disrepute)

 

14.
7-18-07
quote:
>These are not facts, these are allegations made by Coughlan in his affadavit. McLaren insists that neither are true. Do you have specific evidence that McLaren is lying or are you continuing to jump to conclusions no matter what the facts are?

I, and most everyone else here, are waiting for supporting evidence before we start calling for Ron Dennis' head.<

 

15.
Priceless
(senna3xwc)
>Who is a McLaren apologist???<

 

Hmmmm...

Plenty of time to search through over 2,000 posts of mine but no time to actually back up your insulting and inflammatory accusations?

Perhaps your time is better spent trying to actually learn something about F1. maybe then your posts won't be so inane, naive and vacuous

 

16.

Quote:
Originally Posted by 355 View Post
For God sake man the two of you will stretch anything to the limit just to make Mclaren look inocent.
(senna3xwc)
> How does that have anyting to do with McLaren?!?

The question refers to the regulation saying that a team is responsible for the actions of all its employees. We are discussing Stepney and Ferrari. Where do you see McLaren in that question?

Why don't you go find a cat stuck in a tree somewhere and make yourself useful? <

 

17.
> Nor do I see how McLaren could be responsible if in fact their statement rebutting Coughlan's affadavit is proven true.

Of course making a statement like this brings all the loonies out of the woodwork... <

Sweet.....

 

18.
>McLaren claims that noone other than Coughlan knew of the documents until the search of Coughlan's home. So either Coughlan is lying or McLaren is. Do you have any specific knowledge that McLaren is lying?
Reply With Quote<

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> Who is a McLaren apologist???? <

 

18.
(senna3xwc)

> As I, and others on this board, have been stating for weeks and getting hammered for it. Coughlan is a rogue and McLaren is found to be innocent. Apologies are owed to many.

Vindication is sweet. Now let's get back to racing. <

for once I agree with you. On your last line....

 

19.
(senna3xwc)
> had McLaren not suspended him, these same aluminum-hat wearing knee-jerk reactionaries would be claiming that McLaren's reluctance to suspend Coughlan is proof that they were complicit.

There is no way to win a logical argument with people whose heads are buried so far in the sand (or in an orifice) that they refuse to see the obvious. <

 

20.
On 7-13-07 Senna 3xWC had this to say

> Are you privy to some secret information that no one else has?? Do you have specific evidence that McLaren in any way possessed or used this information?

Or are you so blinded by your partisanship that you refuse to accept facts? Judging by your description of Ron Dennis and McLaren, I think we all know the answer to that.

I am only concerned with known facts, not irrational and ridiculous leaps of logic. And the facts are that the documents were discovered in Coughlan's possession in his home, NOT in his office at McLaren, NOT in his computer at McLaren, and NOWHERE else in the McLaren organization. The facts are that Coughlan and Stepney approached Honda with this information, not McLaren. The facts are that Ron Dennis has made available to the FIA ALL technical information regarding the design and development of the McLaren race car during and preceding this entire time period PROVING that no Ferrari information is being used on the car.

These are FACTS. The rest is the rumblings of you and your aluminum-hat wearing brethren.

You better spend more time worrying about space aliens reading your thoughts than blowing off insipid speculative drivel like this. <

..........and also this.......

> Who is a McLaren apologist??? <

 

21.
Classy....


> go to hell.

I own a 355, which I suspect is more than you do, unless you count the Revell model in your bedroom of your parents' basement. <