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  1. furoni

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    #1 furoni, Sep 16, 2015
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    This was taken from italian newspaper "larepublica"


    Basicly Felipe says he was overlooked at ferrari, everyone turned their atentions towars Alonso, he lost everty power inside the team, and simply could not do anything to change the situation.....racing is made of small details, and those details made all the diference...
    Wich i basicly always thought had happened, Felipe was probably quicker than Alonso before his accident, he still managed to be quicker many times, most of them by the end of the season, probably when he was more adpted to a car made under Fernando instructions.....



    Felipe Massa: "Corro e sono felice"
    Dopo il terzo posto a Monza, l'ex pilota della Ferrari parla della sua nuova vita "Alla Williams sono rinato. A Maranello ero sempre il fratello minore, all'ombra di Alonso. Il nostro è uno sport fatto di dettagli. E quelli li puoi modificare solo se hai potere"
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    MONZA - SEDUTO in borghese su una sedia pieghevole di plastica nel retrobox del circuito di Monza, Felipe Massa allarga un sorriso alla De Niro. Una settimana fa, mezzo milione di persone lo applaudiva con l'affetto e l'entusiasmo che solo Monza sa tributare ai grandi. Oggi l'autodromo è vuoto. In pista ronza una Williams del 2011, scarrozza giornalisti e vip pasticcioni per un evento organizzato dalla Martini. Lui, rilassato, si gode quel trionfo di frizioni bruciate e partenze da scuola guida.

    Massa lei è rinato.
    "Più che una rinascita direi che è proprio una nuova vita. Anzi, un nuovo inizio ".

    Come ha fatto?
    "Non so. Diciamo che ho fatto la cosa giusta al momento giusto. Due anni fa. Era arrivato il momento di cambiare. La mia storia con la Ferrari era stata molto bella, intensa, sincera, come gli applausi di Monza dimostrano. Ma era arrivato il momento di sentirmi di nuovo importante ".

    Non era importante in Ferrari?
    "All'inizio sì. Poi le cose sono cambiate, quando è arrivato Alonso. Mi guardavo intorno e vedevo che improvvisamente non avevo più potere sulle cose, sui dettagli. Il nostro sport è fatto di dettagli. E quelli li puoi cambiare solo se hai potere. Il potere è tutto. E io l'avevo perso. Il sintomo più evidente era proprio quello: non mi sentivo più importante. E bastava incrociare lo sguardo della gente intorno a me per capirlo. Era impossibile essere felice".

    Non è improprio parlare di felicità quando si guadagnano milioni?
    "No. Almeno non per me. Alla fine ho sempre corso dove e come mi piaceva, e i soldi hanno sempre contato fino a un certo punto. Io corro per essere felice. E se non sei rispettato, non puoi essere felice".

    Doveva cambiare.
    "Sì. E per fortuna quel cambiamento l'ho fatto nel momento giusto, e per la squadra giusta. La Williams aveva appena siglato il contratto con la Mercedes e aveva chiuso l'accordo con Martini. Stava rinascendo, siamo rinati in due: le mancava solo quello che avevo da darle io".

    In Williams si è scrollata di dosso l'immagine del ragazzino di bottega che la opprimeva in Ferrari.
    "A Maranello mi vedevano sempre come il fratellino minore di qualcuno".

    Capita quando si cresce dentro le aziende.
    "Nel mio caso comunque l'azienda ha sbagliato a puntare tutto su un pilota. I team vivono di punti e i punti li si porta in due".

    È sicuro che non sia stata anche un po' colpa sua?
    "Tante volte ho pensato che avrei dovuto essere meno gentile. Più duro ed egoista. Però poi mi ritrovo a fare il bilancio della mia vita. Mi sono successe tante cose, ho rischiato la vita a Budapest, sono stato amico di una leggenda come Schumacher e di un ragazzo d'oro come Bianchi, ho attraversato due o tre epoche di questo sport, ho subito ingiustizie e visto porcherie di ogni tipo, sono stato costretto a lasciarmi superare dal mio compagno di squadra, ed è stato il momento peggiore della mia vita, ma ho anche vinto tanto e gioito e soprattutto mi sono divertito. Sono caduto spesso ma ogni volta che mi sono rialzato è sempre stato bellissimo. No. Non cambierei niente. Sono sempre stato me stesso, Felipe, e se il mio modo di essere mi ha causato qualche difficoltà, la mia forza mi ha permesso di superarle e di diventare un uomo e un padre migliore ".

    A quelli che scrivevano cose brutte su di lei cosa dice?
    "Niente, perché loro per primi hanno scritto cose belle, dopo. La coerenza è un problema loro. Se dovessi andare a dire "stronzo" a tutti quelli a cui ho fatto cambiare idea, non avrei più tempo per guidare! "

    Parlava di porcherie. A fine anno farà la race of the champions, in coppia con Nelsino Piquet, quello che andando a sbattere apposta nel 2009 a Singapore le tolse il mondiale. Non le fa strano?
    "Non è andato a sbattere per togliermi quel mondiale. Lo ha fatto, sbagliando, per cose interne alla sua squadra, per continuare a guidare in F1. Siamo abbastanza grandi e ormai lontani da quei fatti per valutare tutto in modo sereno. Io sono felice, gli altri non lo so, non è un problema mio".

    A proposito della felicità degli altri, di Alonso in Honda che cosa dice?
    "Sono sicuro che non è contento. Non parlo di quanto guadagna. Ma di quello che un pilota vive quando è col casco calato sugli occhi. Pensando a tutto quello che è riuscito a fare in carriera, vederlo così fa effetto. Ma dio sa sempre ciò che fa. Se fa qualcosa di bello o di brutto per te, bè c'è sempre un motivo".

    Suo figlio Felipinho la segue ovunque nel mondo. Farà il pilota?
    "Deciderà lui. E io asseconderò la sua scelta.
    Vede, il papà di un pilota rischia di essere come la mamma di una miss. Normalmente è la mamma che avrebbe voluto essere una miss e spinge la figlia verso un mondo che spesso la poverina nemmeno vuole. E finiscono per essere patetiche sia la mamma che la figlia. Patetiche e infelici. Io ho visto molti casi bruttissimi anche in F1. No, no. Deciderà Felipinho se fare il pilota. Io di certo farò il papà. Ma prima corro ancora per qualche anno".
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  2. classic308

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    Good interview, thanks for posting!
     
  3. tifosi12

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    I disagree with Massa being quicker than Alonso. No way.

    There is a reason Ferrari treated him as #2. Because he was.
     
  4. 375+

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    I like Massa but he doesn't possess the unrelenting drive to win and succeed that Alonso has. It probably makes him a nicer person, too nice to be a World Champion.
     
  5. furoni

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    felipe was very unlucky...he os on top of his game when he suffered his accident, than he was eager to return because he was afraid to lose his place and i think he did it a bit to early.....Alonso brought an enourmous amount of money and was treated like the proma dona that he was....i have no doubt he had more input on the car, and Felipe was et a bit aside.....it was a wrong move by Ferrari because Alopnso wa sterrible at developing cars....unlike Massa that proved in 08 just how good he could be in that department....Alonso had the fame to be a good developer but facts prove otherwise, he failed miserably at Ferrari but by then it was too late for Felipe...i'm happy for him, hope he still wins a couple of races before he goes, Bottas is so higly rated and yet he is no better than Massa who is no longer as good as he was before his accident.
     
  6. subirg

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    Massas merits have been well debated in the Massa Sucks thread. He was never Wdc material. He's a lovely guy and all that, but to claim he was ever better than mid field is a stretch imho. He can feel what he wants, and perhaps it helps him deal with his history at Ferrari but it doesn't change the fact that his number 2 status was for a reason.

    As for comparing him with Bottas - sorry, I don't rate him either. At least they have one thing in common - neither of them are any good in the wet.
     
  7. spirot

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    I think Massa was great before the accident - but after he took a while to get back up and has never quite been the same. all in - he's lucky to be alive and will have a long racing career after F-1 which is probabbly coming sooner than later.
     
  8. Fast_ian

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    Agree he never quite seemed to return to his former level. He was truly "there or thereabouts" prior IMO. Gotta remember how unlucky he's been over the years too.

    Do you think he'll keep going once he's done at Williams? Sports cars with his buddy Mark? I dunno, I have a feeling he may call it quits & start working in karts with little Felipe; Think the kind of resources Jos pumped into Max.....

    Cheers,
    Ian
     
  9. DeSoto

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    Meh, drivers always find an excuse.
     
  10. tifosi12

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    Lol

    Sums it up
     
  11. Bas

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    Massa is a great driver, but inconsistend. Once he got that consistency going (most of 2008 and 2009), he was fantastic. He even beat Schumi twice...A rare occasion of course, but it still happened.

    In 2010 when he was finally ahead of Alonso and that famous call came that was it. He was never comfortable in the team anymore, because he knew that whenever he would be in front of Alonso, he wouldn't be allowed to finish ahead. ''So whats the point'' he probably said to himself.

    Now in Williams he has that mojo back. The team loves him, he gets along great with everyone. However, I do think the team can be a little protective and quickly declare the ''do not overtake each other'' rule (or only in certain corners). That said, the Williams team has been making odd calls for the last 2 seasons, in order to score a solid points finish instead of trying to win, but risk a lower finish if the strategy doesn't pack out. Shame really.
     
  12. subirg

    subirg F1 Rookie

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    Re Williams strategy - true. They race to earn, not race to win.
     
  13. TifosiUSA

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    Massa was faster than Kimi. Alonso? LOL.

    For what it's worth he is still a good driver and has had a great career.
     
  14. furoni

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    I never saw Hamilton do any better when they drove similar cars, so no reason for me to consider Elton any better than him....
     
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    I desagree, he was so much wc material than he actual won the title in 2008...or he would have in any honest competition, where rigged races do not count for the final results.
     
  16. tifosi12

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    Lol

    One is a double WDC, the other has won a few races
     
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    Maybe over a lap he was quicker. Massa is certainly no slouch as Bottas has found out in both 2014 and 2015!

    However, Fernando's strength is his amazing racing IQ and consistency. Massa never had that.

    Maybe it was down to his confidence being knocked but in reality Fernando was just that much better.
     
  18. jdmwerks

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    sorry but when was he quicker?
     
  19. furoni

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    if you haven't seen him race, than i can't help you......
     
  20. furoni

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    Sure Andreas, as you well know, Hamilton first title is in reality massa's, as for the second and probably third, just swap massa to Merc and Elton to Williams and tell me who do ypui think will win more races....
     
  21. 4rePhill

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    There's a reason why the F1 experts who have followed the sport for decades and those within the sport right now do not mention Massa in the same breath as Alonso, Vettel and Hamilton: Because he's nowhere near as good as they are!

    And let's be honest here, Massa should really be a bit more grateful to Ferrari because they carried on employing him as a driver for at least 2 years longer than they really should have!
     
  22. GordonC

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    You've obviously been successful in your deliberate efforts to wipe from memory the painful British GP at Silverstone 2008 :D. In pouring rain, Hamilton stormed from 4th on the grid to a dominant victory, displaying rainmeister skills on his way to finishing 68 seconds ahead of second place Nick Heidfeld.

    Meanwhile, Massa finished 2 laps down, after spinning a remarkable 5 FIVE times and proving conclusively that he was completely useless in the wet. Up to that point in the season, Massa had actually been leading the championship. Blame Singapore all you want, but Massa threw away 10 points to Hamilton with his own miserable drive at Silverstone.


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_British_Grand_Prix

    Here, enjoy this reminder - it captures at least 4 of Massa's spins!

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLGnFTl_6_I[/ame]
     
  23. Remy Zero

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    Massa is fast, in his prime, he was even faster than Kimi. There were times when he was even faster than Michael.

    However, that accident changed everything. He seemed eager to proof he was fine, and probably rushed back too quickly.

    However, i feel he's actually performing better and better these days.
     
  24. tifosi12

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    Sorry pal but no.
     
  25. xku807

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    #25 xku807, Sep 16, 2015
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    At his peak Massa had the speed to occasionally match Schumacher. He was about equal to Kimi - at his peak. He was past his prime when he had Alonso as a teammate and was thus comprehensively beaten by the Spaniard. But for the vast majority of his F1 career (prior to and after his accident), he was at best a very good number 2 driver. I share the view that he is lucky to have stayed for so long at Ferrari when the red cars were either best of the field or second best.
     

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