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  1. VIZSLA

    VIZSLA Four Time F1 World Champ
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    Perhaps but his willingness to opine publicly on any subject has been disruptive.
     
  2. Remy Zero

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    Well, Fred has been very quiet this past 2 season, isn't it? Maybe he's matured and toned down a bit...
     
  3. VIZSLA

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    I seem to remember a few recent statements.
     
  4. DGS

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    #29 DGS, Aug 19, 2009
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    The reporters have been hanging out at the other end of pit row: for Lewis in 2008 and Button in 2009.
    That's lack of opportunity. ;)

    The reporters might be spending a lot of time at the back of pit row next year, too ...
    ... around USF1's catering, just to find out what the heck is a "corn dog" anyway? :p
    (Presuming they ever get beyond "coming soon".)

    (Dang. We're off-topic again.)
     
  5. Remy Zero

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    Really? I remember he was a bit noisy at the start of last season. Now he's much more jovial i think.
     
  6. VIZSLA

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    I wouldn't say jovial, how about somewhat more sanguine?
     
  7. aquapuss

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    I cannot believe I'm reading this. Nobody cares about personality in real life. There's a saying in America. It is about money, _ _ _ _ _ _. You fill in the blanks.
     
  8. barbazza

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    If it's only about money then why is Kimi half as motivated at Ferrari when he's being paid more than double what he was getting at McLaren?
     
  9. aquapuss

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    Please tell us more about "half as motivated". How did you arrive at that?
     
  10. jknight

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    I can assist with that answer - obvious - his little episode with the ice cream and shorts (total lack of respect for his team on worldwide tv) - if he was motivated, he would have had on a headset and been at the monitors with the team members; if he were motivated then there wouldn't have been reports stating he didn't/doesn't provide feedback on the car; etc.

    This thread is about Massa and not relative to Kimi except for his lack of class towards his fellow team member. Kimi is relative to the Ferrari Paying Him Off Thread!

    Carol
     
  11. TurboFreak650

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    Yes it does. An overpaid, non-team player. I think it's very low class for Kimi not to have visited. A phone call isn't good enough either, he should have been there at Massa's bedside in the hospital.
     
  12. barbazza

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    I'm basing it on how well he used to do at McLaren with an OK car vs at Ferrari with a really good car (2007-2008).

    If you remember back to 2003 he came within a couple of points of winning the WDC (in a year-old car!). And in 2005 he was crushing the opposition when his car didn't break. But too many mechanical problems cost him the title. Remember Suzuka that year when he came from the back of the grid to take the win on the last lap? Awesome stuff!

    Then he comes to Ferrari and barely squeaks out the title in 2007 and finishes behind Massa in 2008. No disrepesct to Massa but I feel Kimi has more natural talent than him or anyone else on the grid. He just doesn't seem to be applying it.

    And that isn't meant to be a hate comment on Kimi. It's my own personal frustration because I've been a huge fan of his from day 1, when Max was spouting his BS about Kimi not deserving a superlicense. He proved his speed and just kept getting better each year. After Schumacher, he's my favorite driver but I don't get to see that same fire he used to have now that he's at Ferrari and I wish he would find a way to bring it back.
     
  13. aquapuss

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    So Kimi is not a sanctimonious Americanized automaton? What a tremendous loss that is.
     
  14. aquapuss

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    Try something like this for starters.

    http://philosophy.lander.edu/logic/faq.html
     
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