http://www.f1racing.net/en/news.php?newsID=119838 The FIA today announced the teams who will be part of the voting process within the F1 commission as of the 2008 season. McLaren and Toyota were left out of the commission. The F1 commission is a group of manufacturers and race promoters that approves new rules and then submits them to the World Motor Sport Council. Part of the F1 Commission as of 2008 are Ferrari, Renault, Williams, Honda, Red Bull and BMW Sauber. Also added to the commission are the race promotions of the following races: Australia, Brazil, Spain, Hungary and Monaco. =================================== Ok, so if you don't vote with Max & Bernie - you don't get to vote at all ?
Well, Ron lost this round. But i woudn't label him a loser yet. GPMA squezed more cash out of Bernie after all.
McLarens response: Sorry, can't copy\paste it. http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpass_news_item.php?fes_art_id=28215
Looks like they only some and subject to "honest" and "unbiased" selection by Max and Bernie. What a circus.
It seems that F1 racing only provided a "title-teaser" in their story! Here's part of the article from where I get all my news and it's probably the most reliable of any news service! "As part of the wholesale changes to the sport for 2008, the F1 Commission is being restructured. That process had to be finalized as soon as possible, as the Commission will have to act on the 2008 technical regulations before June 30. Since their own next meeting is not until July 5, the WMSC members were asked this week to vote by fax to finalize the composition of the new Commission. Only six of the 12 teams (including new entrant Prodrive) will be allowed a vote, rather than all of them, as was the case in the past. The teams have not been chosen purely in terms of their positions in the world championship, but on a national basis, via their entrants' licenses. "We need to do it now by fax, rather than on July 5 at the next meeting," Mosley said. "Because any change to the sporting rules that affects the design of the cars for 2008 has to be made before June 30. What we're proposing is one team from each country. The FIA tradition is country by country." Licenses tend to reflect the nationality of the team owner, rather than where the actual race team factory is based. That's relevant mainly because national anthems played for the winning constructor on the podium have to be that of the license. For example, Toyota's top management would not be very happy to win a race and have the German anthem played, and the same goes for Honda, Super Aguri and Renault with regard to Britain, and BMW with Switzerland. At the moment, six countries enter F1 teams, but Mosley said that Red Bull Racing will apply for an Austrian license, bringing the total to seven, leaving the split between the countries as follows: Great Britain: McLaren, Williams and Prodrive; Italy: Ferrari and Toro Rosso; Japan: Honda, Toyota and Super Aguri; France: Renault; Germany: BMW; Russia: Midland F1; Austria: Red Bull Racing. Mosley said that where there is more than one team from each country, "I think we would have to take the most senior team. For example, Honda is probably the senior Japanese team." Mosley did not mention who would get the British vote, but autosport.com understands that Williams will be given priority, leaving McLaren out in the cold. It's not clear what definition of the word "senior" is being used, because McLaren are ahead of Williams in the championship and have also been in the sport for longer. However, Williams are already a member of the Permanent Bureau, which is a sort of sub-division of the Commission that votes on certain matters, such as the recent Yuji Ide situation. It thus seems that the six teams who get the crucial votes will be Williams, Ferrari, Honda, Renault and BMW, with Austria's Red Bull taking precedence over Russia's MF1 for the final slot. Apart from McLaren, that leaves Toyota, Toro Rosso, Super Aguri, Midland and Prodrive without a direct vote, although obviously Toro Rosso are in effect represented by Red Bull Racing. The lack of participation by Mercedes and Toyota in the voting process will clearly be a major blow to both manufacturers, who by coincidence are also two of the less FIA-friendly teams in the paddock. The other votes within the F1 Commission are held by the FIA and FOM, plus five race promoters. It's understood that the five promoters will be Australia, Brazil, Hungary, Monaco and Spain. In the past, there were also representatives of sponsors, tyre suppliers and engine manufacturers on the Commission, but they have now all been dropped. McLaren's comments: "Team McLaren Mercedes note the decision of the FIA to exclude the team from the 2008 Formula One commission," the team said in a statement. "It seems surprising that the second oldest and most successful Formula One team for the past 40 years, with 148 Grand Prix victories, has not been included as a team representative." I just got my June F1 Racing magazine in today's mail. It has an awesome 12 page article about "McLaren - the first 40 years" - so sad they've been excluded. Carol
I've heard that when you get really old, you enter your "second childhood". Looks like Bernie and Max have hit the "terrible twos" again: Seeing how much **** they can pull before they get smacked. F1 is dead: We're just seeing the corpse lurch around like a bad zombie film ("Need brain!").
