McQueen Family Suing Ferrari

Discussion in 'Ferrari Discussion (not model specific)' started by rocketman, Aug 7, 2018.

  1. New FerrariChat Miami Video w/updates on venues and entrants! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tq9K3CzZYWs
  1. PAUL500

    PAUL500 Formula 3

    Jun 23, 2013
    1,970

    Maybe now, but back in the early series of Chasing Classic Cars it was clearly a knock of of the Ferrari version.
     
  2. Dave rocks

    Dave rocks F1 World Champ
    Sponsor Owner

    Nov 23, 2012
    14,013
    Orchard Park, NY
    Full Name:
    Dave Lelonek
    The font Ferrari uses is a generic font - they did not create it. Many people use it such as FerrParts and others. I forget the name but we have it for some stuff we have been playing around with.
     
  3. Ney

    Ney F1 Rookie
    Silver Subscribed

    Apr 20, 2004
    4,176
    Rename "McQueen Brown" to "Stronzo Marrone" and call it done.....
     
  4. Pranucci

    Pranucci Formula Junior
    Silver Subscribed

    Mar 17, 2005
    447
    Carpinteria, CA
    These guys have the right idea
     
  5. Jana

    Jana F1 Veteran
    Silver Subscribed

    Mar 4, 2015
    8,142
    TX, FL
    Full Name:
    Jana
    Is it a trademark issue? I didn't see that specific language in the story. It might simply be a right of publicity issue which includes the name, pic OR any likeness being used. Basically, no company or person can use a famous persons' name to market their product. I am perfectly happy with that law. I do not wish to have every aspiring woman sleuth mystery writer using my name in their marketing products implying my endorsement of their product. There's a reason for these protections.
     
    Lusso123 and Texas Forever like this.
  6. Jana

    Jana F1 Veteran
    Silver Subscribed

    Mar 4, 2015
    8,142
    TX, FL
    Full Name:
    Jana
    This is 100% true. You have to defend your mark every single instance you find or the entire thing could be considered no longer valid.
     
  7. 455Fosbery

    455Fosbery Karting

    Oct 3, 2013
    205
    Off topic, but hopefully entertaining: I recall a place (in the US) that worked on German cars and had special metal signs made up that proudly posted names/logos of major German car companies with "nicht autorisiert" inscribed immediately beneath...
     
  8. Jakuzzi

    Jakuzzi Formula Junior

    Mar 26, 2005
    857
    PR, TX, GV
    Full Name:
    Jaime
    Seems like someone got "cleaned" by a lawyer...….. ;)
     
  9. BMW.SauberF1Team

    BMW.SauberF1Team F1 World Champ

    Dec 4, 2004
    11,063
    Is there a McQueen company somewhere that is pretty well established in the realm of car paints? I can see why the company Walt Disney would enforce its name even though Walt is long dead...they are very well established and clearly profit off the name in almost every type of consumer good and service imaginable.

    How can the McQueen family prove they lost money? They can sue for wrong use of name...sure...but what did they actually lose monetarily? Are they not allowed to state in printed material that a public figure owned one of their cars?

    If Ferrari were making McQueen-named sunglasses then it would be a better argument since the McQueen Persol glasses are established and a money maker. I hope the family lose this case and millions of dollars in legal expense. Hopefully enough to make them unable to ever fight another case since they don't get it.
     
    crinoid likes this.
  10. GordonC

    GordonC F1 Rookie
    Rossa Subscribed Owner

    Aug 28, 2005
    3,389
    Calgary, AB, Canada
    Full Name:
    Gordon
    if the Cali T "Actor" colour scheme sells for the same price as the other Cali T 70th Anniversary liveries, then Ferrari didn't profit from the use of McQueen's name in reference to that livery. I hate nonsense suits like this, from either side. Ferrari should say the brown car called Actor references James Garner, who always drove brown/gold cars in the Rockford Files.

    Besides, McQueen's more famous Ferrari was his customized 275 GTB/4 NART Spider, dark blue with slight flares, larger rear lip spoiler, and no bumpers. The "ordinary" brown Lusso was no big deal... ;)
     
    375+ likes this.
  11. tifoso2728

    tifoso2728 F1 Veteran
    Rossa Subscribed

    Apr 30, 2014
    6,395
    Arlington Heights IL
    Full Name:
    Rob Manchester
    ^^^^ This ^^^^
     
  12. krazykarguy

    krazykarguy Formula Junior
    Silver Subscribed

    Apr 17, 2014
    326
    Fort Mill, SC
    Full Name:
    Matt
    I can't believe this doesn't have more likes... :D:D:D
     
  13. ginge82

    ginge82 Formula 3

    Jul 23, 2012
    1,297
    Europe
    Full Name:
    Art Corvelay
    Used his name to try to sell a product. They have crossed the line.

    They would do the exact same thing if McQueen's relatives were using their IP.
     
    Texas Forever likes this.
  14. furmano

    furmano F1 World Champ
    Silver Subscribed

    Jul 22, 2004
    15,363
    Colorado
    Full Name:
    furmano
    Excuse me but, I create copyright (and trademarked and patented) material too and yeah there are issues but I can assure you, from where I sit, copyright laws are NOT ridiculous. Maybe a little clunky. Maybe a bit outdated. Definitely not ridiculous.

    As far as this situation, I say to Ferrari, "FU pay me, I want my money".

    -F
     
  15. G. Pepper

    G. Pepper F1 Veteran
    Rossa Subscribed

    Mar 15, 2012
    8,264
    San Antonio, Texas
    Full Name:
    George Pepper
    Yes well, I strive for a higher moral plain, so probably 75% of all laws are ridiculous from my enlightened standpoint. Laws are made by lawyers, which is why most of them stink.

    If I was Chad I would have said something like, "Dad would have loved that." And that would have been the end of it.

    Trying to monetize every aspect of existence is not the primary goal of life. Achieving a deep level of satisfaction with oneself is.

    I would rather be me than any other man who has ever lived. That is self-actualization.

    Enjoy your money.
     
    BMW.SauberF1Team likes this.
  16. willrace

    willrace F1 World Champ
    Rossa Subscribed Owner

    Oct 21, 2006
    13,335
    North Tay-has
    Full Name:
    Kurt
    Exactly, and he possibly would have, had it not been hyper-litigious Ferrari who decided that it absolutely applied to everyone else but them.

    This is precisely why it is the only appropriate response to Ferrari and their rabid, often overreaching assault against anyone who is not them - even people who are honoring the brand. Ferrari set the precedent to apply against Ferrari.
     
    G. Pepper likes this.
  17. GordonC

    GordonC F1 Rookie
    Rossa Subscribed Owner

    Aug 28, 2005
    3,389
    Calgary, AB, Canada
    Full Name:
    Gordon
    Isn't Chad's entire existence based on monetizing his Dad's legacy?
     
  18. G. Pepper

    G. Pepper F1 Veteran
    Rossa Subscribed

    Mar 15, 2012
    8,264
    San Antonio, Texas
    Full Name:
    George Pepper
    Yes, I don't get that. There is something unsavory about it, "protecting the legacy" talk notwithstanding.
     
    Jakuzzi likes this.
  19. Jakuzzi

    Jakuzzi Formula Junior

    Mar 26, 2005
    857
    PR, TX, GV
    Full Name:
    Jaime
    Isn't it Piero Lardi's [Now Piero Ferrari, as result of revisionist history] existence the same? He is living of Enzo Ferrari's name. :)
     
    Tu160bomber likes this.
  20. Alix Tckelman

    Alix Tckelman Rookie

    Friday
    1
    Full Name:
    Alix Tckelman
    #46 Alix Tckelman, Aug 19, 2018 at 2:34 PM
    Last edited by a moderator: Aug 19, 2018 at 3:07 PM
    It is a just a paint scheme and on their ****iest car. Not even a good paint scheme. Haven't seen a brown car in ages. The junkie son wanted a lot of money and Ferrari rightfully blew him off. Highly doubt they are going to make millions and millions of dollars off of it. They are not even charging extra. Priced the same as the other paint colors. The junkie son blew through his trust fund or should I say snorted it and now is trying to shake down anyone and everyone. Does anyone even remember McQueen? The new crop of Ferrari buyers are probably are saying McQueen who? It was 50 years ago.
     
  21. GatorFL

    GatorFL Moderator
    Moderator Owner

    Nov 18, 2005
    10,732
    Wellington, FL
    Full Name:
    Duane
    You pick the name of a hooker who killed a guy by injecting him with heroin as your screen name and you're accusing Chad McQueen of being a junkie? Smells like classic trolling.
     
    JDZNate likes this.

Share This Page