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Mercedes 190E 2.3-16

Discussion in 'Other German' started by leeber, Jun 16, 2019.

  1. leeber

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    Does anyone in the forum have a Mercedes 190E 2.3-16? I am thinking of buying a Euro version and importing it into the USA. Dont know why I cant get these out of my system of "car wanted" over the last 3 years!
     
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  3. PT 328

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    Can't be of much help but I have been a fan of the 190 Cosworth for about 30 years.
     
  4. johnei

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  5. absent

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    I had manual with dogleg pattern in 1986 and Auto in 1987.
    Very well balanced and fun to drive but performance was underwhelming even then, I remember complaining that the chassis was so good it deserved at least a 40-50HP more then it had.
    Manual was hands down a better car, Automatic was just lazy and slow.
     
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  6. AndersForsberg

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    You'd think that my first ever message at FC would be about a Ferrari, and not involving a Merc with fewer valves than it should have.
    All kidding aside... I just wen't browsing the forums and happened upon this thread before I can actually get cracking on researching 348's to see if that's a worthy first foray into Ferrari territory.

    Like I said, I'm missing a few valves and some 50 odd horsepower on my own 190.
    I did go looking for a 2.3 16V a while back, though. Test drove one of them and @absent isn't really that far off.
    Buuut... I've also driven an E30 BMW M3 and I can't really say that it was thaaaat much more excting. And that's at least double the money these days.
    Don't expect to be wowed by it's performance, but it's good to get thing's out of your system. Go for it!
    But do the manual one, for sure. And it can't really be a downside to have a 'better' car when it comes time to let it go. The USD is also strong compared to some local European currency.


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    Here is mine.
    A (prior to me) one-owner car with some period AMG-pieces.
     
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  8. 88MONDIAL

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    190's are great cars, a 2.3-16 would be awesome. If you can do it, I say yes.
     
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  9. mclaudio

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    My favorite street Benz to drive. Euro is noticeably more rev happy than US. Go for it!
     
  10. tbakowsky

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    Had a 92 190 2.6. Best car I have ever owned. Put over 800,000km on that car before it said goodnight. My father bought it new, and gave it to me, so that's combined milage.
     
  11. leeber

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    im still looking. if anyone has a lead on finding a 190E 2.3-16 (1st choice) or 2.5-16 with cloth interior, manual trans, and air conditioning. please contact me.
     
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  13. max930

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    I like the styling of that era Mercs. My parents had a 190D at our Tahoe house. It was painfully slow. But I still liked the look and feel of that car. In 1989 we replaced the Merc with a BMW 325ix. The BMW was more fun to drive, but I miss the Merc more.
     
  14. slm

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    Would love to find a low mileage example of one of these.
     
  15. BMWairhead

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    I have a friend who is finishing up a low km euro 2.3 16v five speed. He imported it from Spain to the PacNW. Theoretically he will be selling it.
     
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  16. slm

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    Would love too talk if/and when.
     
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  18. leeber

    leeber Karting

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    Does this one have A/C, manual trans, and cloth seat inserts. I recently saw a spanish one that was almost perfect for my desired specs but no a/c, and aware of an italian one from a friend that was pretty special, but its about $6k USD to get it here....not sure i wanna go through all that extra money for a 2.3-16. Adding $7k puts me in other cool car territory for some cars already in the US, like '86 mondial coupe, '83 911sc, or '04 911-40th anniv.

    Any comments on this statement from real owners are always welcome. I used to live by rule to never buy before i drive, but internet and covid have changed the rules to buy before you drive and trust the seller after doing due diligence.
     

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