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  1. jpalmito

    jpalmito F1 Veteran

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    No he’s just on the top of the woke wave and all of its excessives tendances.
    Time will really tell his true importance in this sport history.
     
  2. ktu

    ktu F1 Rookie

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    The other drivers have no wave. The drivers who stand for something on and off track are the most remembered. Time is already telling his importance. Histrory says a champions legacy gets stronger after F1.
     
  3. jpalmito

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    Better to have no wave compared with this catastrophic one.
    His deserved legacy as a very good driver will be hugely impacted by this.
     
  4. ktu

    ktu F1 Rookie

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    Agree to disagree.
     
  5. stever

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    I don't understand the last sentence; can someone explain?
     
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  6. stever

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    Paraphrasing a US politician: I know Jackie Stewart; Hamilton is no Jackie Stewart.
     
  7. jgonzalesm6

    jgonzalesm6 Two Time F1 World Champ
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    The person you responded to hasn't seen the orange wave army at some GP's that literally cover the entire track with orange smoke and have opened back up an F1 track because of this presence before he started winning WDC titles.

    "The other drivers have no wave." :rolleyes:
     
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  8. jgonzalesm6

    jgonzalesm6 Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Should Lewis want to retire, that's his asking price.
     
  9. stever

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    OK, got it. But...he wants to be paid to go away? He's going to retire sometime...I don't get the logic.
     
  10. jgonzalesm6

    jgonzalesm6 Two Time F1 World Champ
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    That's really up to him SHOULD HE retire.

    Lewis is going to be around another 2 years for the moment.
     
  11. 375+

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    2 more seasons of Project Runway.
     
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  12. stever

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    Well, he does keep you interested in seeing what he comes up with next. I particularly liked the Ronald McDonald, and Aunt Maude Goes For a Hike outfits.
     
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  13. absostone

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    booooooooo!!!
     
  14. DF1

    DF1 Two Time F1 World Champ

    Rumor - no one has seen the contract, not signed etc. This is what another site thinks...........via PlanetF1.com

    F1 rumours: Lewis Hamilton’s new £120 million contract includes ambassadorial role
    Sam Cooper Tuesday 17th January 2023 8:15 AM


    Lewis Hamilton has reportedly been offered a £60 million per season extension to his current Mercedes deal which expires at the end of 2023.

    The extension of Hamilton seems like a matter of when rather than if with both the driver and team principal Toto Wolff saying they would like the relationship to continue.

    Wolff said the two would sit down over the winter break and come to agreement but a new deal has yet to be announced as Hamilton trains in Antarctica ahead of the new campaign.

    Rumours have emerged though that a contract has been agreed, as well as some of the details of the deal which will keep Hamilton at the Silver Arrows.

    According to sports business outlet Sportune, they reported that Hamilton has been offered a salary of €70 million (£62 million) a season which is a raise from his current deal of €45 million (£40 million).

    However, unlike his existing contract, the new terms does not have a €25 million (£22 million) bonus for winning the World Championship.

    Mercedes have reportedly offered an extension of two years which would see Hamilton race into his 40s.

    20 minutes also reports that the salary will largely be paid by Mercedes sponsor Ineos, which is British billionaire Jim Ratcliffe’s company. The two have a long-standing relationship away from F1 as well with Hamilton part of Ratcliffe’s unsuccessful bid to buy Chelsea and recent rumours that they are now targeting Manchester United.

    Ratcliffe will pick up 90% of the contract which also includes funds used to finance Hamilton’s charity Mission 44.

    Aside from the financial terms of the deal, Hamilton is also looking for an ambassadorial role with the Silver Arrows and wants a 10-year deal with the Daimler Group (Mercedes-Benz), for which he would ask for around 25 million euros per year.

    If you want to believe the rumour mill, of course.

    Lewis Hamilton can take inspiration from an old enemy as he enters the twilight of his career
    While there have been a few examples in F1 history of drivers racing well into their 40s and even in some cases 50s, the average retirement age for a racing driver is in their 30s.

    But Formula 1 is currently following a trend that all sports are of athletes being able to compete at a high level later in their career. James Anderson, Roger Federer, Tom Brady, the list of veteran athletes who were still playing elite sport into their 40s is getting longer and F1 is no different.

    If Hamilton were to agree to a two-year extension, he would be racing past the age of 40 but he need only look at the example set by one of his former team-mates.

    Fernando Alonso will be 41 when his foot hits the accelerator at the first race of 2023 in Bahrain and the Spaniard has not shown many signs of slowing down from the form that secured him two World Championships.

    If Alonso can do it then there is no reason why Hamilton, who takes very good care of himself, can not do likewise.
     
  15. ktu

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    Yes. He is no Jackie Stewart. And Jackie Stewart is no Hamilton. Hamilton has been more of a force in F1 than Jackie Stewart IMO.
     
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  16. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Statistically speaking, you are right: like him or not, Hamilton has made more of an impact in F1 than the wee Scott.
     
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  17. 375+

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    Bollocks. JYS won WDCs in a lethal era--2 or 3 drivers were killed each season. His efforts to bring safety to the sport were widely ridiculed at the time. To my mind he was courageous.
     
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  18. jgonzalesm6

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    Toto is selling his F40 from his private car collection.
     
  19. jpalmito

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    Fully agree, in my book Steward Lauda and Prost are in a class on their own.
     
  20. DF1

    DF1 Two Time F1 World Champ

    Please take to the LH thread. This is about Mercedes F1. ITs not about popular drivers.
     
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  21. 250boano

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    Essentially he is negotiating that when he retires he enters a 10 year ambassadorial role for Daimler, with an annual fee of EUR 25m - thus total: EUR 250m

    Obviously all hearsay, no way of confirming.
     
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  22. ktu

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    Every driver raced in that era were at risk. Drivers today are still at risk. Time will show Stewart is not even close to Hamilton having globally and culturally relating to F1. Not even in the same ballpark.
     
  23. DF1

    DF1 Two Time F1 World Champ

    Despite widespread reports, Lewis Hamilton has yet to begin contract negotiations with Mercedes, Sky Sports understands.

    Despite widespread reports, Lewis Hamilton has yet to begin contract negotiations with Mercedes.

    Stories claiming Hamilton is closing in on a £60m-per-year deal bankrolled by INEOS boss Sir Jim Ratcliffe, a one-third owner of the Mercedes F1 team, are understood by Sky Sports to be without foundation.
     
  24. Mitch Alsup

    Mitch Alsup F1 Veteran

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    With the new cost cap and free salary for drivers (and other principals)::

    Merc could have a contract with Lewis that pays in a crap load of money and as they develop the car, Lewis could pay for that development out of his own pocket and presto--another way around the cost cap. The team did not pay for that development, Lewis did !!
     
  25. DF1

    DF1 Two Time F1 World Champ

    I was thinking along this logic as yours. I think the accounting of such progress would need to show the funding / resources and balance it against the cap. Could it happen, I think certainly lol! An intriguing angle!
     

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