Merged: 0117 S - This Week's Barn Find

And spotted today on the streets of Monrovia!

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Car have been bought by Paul Grant of Belgium and he will be very please too show the car to anybody who may express a interest to write a story about this fantastic discovery ( Who say that it s impossible to find Barn car anymore ? )
In 1956, the car was a Barchetta and we can really suposse that in this case, the car have been racing in Italy prior to come to the States. The research begin. Paul told me to tell the Ferrari community that he will reward any good help to complet the history and photos. After, he will race the car in historic events.
More details photos when the car wiol be in Belgium.
Where he need to look to see if any body parts are numbered ?

Thank You.
email of Paul Grant is [email protected]

 

great news ! Grant is a good guy. For how much did he buy it ? Can't see the results on rmauction.com

 

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Sold for $210,000.00 USD.

 

That's all it went for? Granted, it's a bitsa, but I would have expected it to go for more than that.

 

On a side note the Ferrari 412 S Spider sold for 5.1 million. WOW!!

 

It was 210 + commission
Why it was a steal is simple to understand
The car was not in the catalogue but was in a folder who was written by Marcel Massini, even if the story was very well explain, many people didn t take the folder and on the block, they didn t knew what is was !
After outside, many people was around the car and was discussing the 121 LM body with Bill Noon and Elliott Grossman.
Paul had receive very good offer from collectors who now understand the car.
The price paid has nothings to do with the value as you can see with the great steal that Tom bought on Ebay !
Now, Paul is searching for any period Italian racing history and if found will make this Barchetta even more fantastic !

 

It would have bid for more. I actually still had my hand raised at $215K and was spotted by both Rob and another of the RM staff but was ignored and the hammer came down.

Rob objected but in such a circumstance the auctioneers decisions is always final.

My bidding was consistant with three others and I was prepared to go to $250K without question.

It will always have a story but it would have been the cheapest as well as competative open Ferrari in the challenge series and one I would have enjoyed.

I think it was one of the few under-sold cars of the auction.

In any case it was nice as the missed opportunity led to an introduction to Jean Todt and his girlfriend and some interesting conversations thereafter.

Warm regards,

Bill Noon

 

A quck search on google just show that when Sabbia sold the car in 1955, it was sold to Domenico Lo Coco who is a Italian racing driver.
Some links
http://www.formula2.net/FJ59_44.htm
http://wspr-racing.com/wspr/results/nonchamp/nonchamp1958.html

The search is open

 

Here a 121 LM with new front http://www.eurocoachworks.com/en/121_lemans.php

 

To Bill Noon,

*scratching head*

Given current values, it would be best to break this vehicle back into three legitimate vehicles?

Reconstruct the frame as "new" original 117S....the body into a reconstructed 118LM, and the drivetrain back into the 250GT 2 + 2??

Admittedly, maybe the last vehicle would make no commercial sense, but there have been cars built out of less...........very interesting determination, on the possible origin of the body shell!

 

In the good story made by Massini, Peter Helm show a photos with his friend Pierre Jalbert next to 117 who work in the movie ""43: The Richard Petty Story (1974)… Richard Petty, Darren McGavin, Noah Beery Jr., L.Q. Jones, Kathie Browne, Pierre Jalbert, Jerry Whittington. Average biography of the NASCAR driver. Good racing footage though. http://www.sandlotshrink.com/movieauto.htm

 

On the auction description of Marcel Massini, this one show a photo with the car in the sixties with the actor Pierre Jalbert....Luckely, I ve spoke with Mr Jalbert today and this one speak very well french as he is a canadian french citizen. He will send me by post more infos on the car. The search continue, and Paul Grant ask me to thank you for all your help

 

Buongiorno a tutti, mi potete aiutare per favore?
Non parlo inglese e ho visto questo sito
http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/sho...=115599&page=4
dove si parlava di un membro della mia famiglia D Lo Coco. Sarei in grado di aiutare la persona che cerca queste informazioni.
Per favore, contattatemi in italiano a quest'email. : [email protected]
Grazie

 

Some additional photos, including some from the RM auction:
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Good photos, thank you

 

Ok, gracie

 

George

What Ferrari P 4/5 by Pininfarina is is fact. It has been officially agreed on between Pininfarina, Ferrari and me. This is public record and has been reported in the press:

http://www.evo.co.uk/news/evonews/202433/ferrari_enzo_meets_pininfarina.html

What 0117S was, is now, and will be, is/will be fully disclosed as well. Both the market and people are fully able to judge what fully disclosed cars are and what they aren't. This is of course true about 0846/002C/SL 71-32/J446/J6/ect./etc.

 

Add me to the list of people at the RM Auction that didn't really have a clue what they were looking at. I wish I had seen this thread before I headed up there.

Anyway, here are the three shots I took of the car for anyone who might be interested.

>8^)
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Don't y'all think there's a difference between a car that was rebodied back in the fifties, when no one could have known that these cars would be this valuable or this sought after, and one that's rebodied now, or recently?Seems to me that this makes all the difference; back in the day, these were just racing applicances etc. Someone who rebodies a car now is doing it in full awareness of the market- and possibly with the aim of deception. The intent was totally different back then- doesn't that count for something? Just curious.

 

The new owner Paul Grant is going to receive the car in Belgium in 3 weeks, then he will take very detailled photos of the car and I will post it.
Speaking with Bill Noon, this one explain to us that because on 8 attachments points on the back of the car, this body is 121 or 118 LM.
Grant is going to look very closely on the body to see if he can find marques or stamp somewhere. Where can be the location of a number ?
Here history of some 121
0484LM
121LM
SPYDER SCAGLIETTI SF Converted 750 Monza to 300S, then to 118LM. 1955: Targa Florio: Taruffi; 1st (as 118LM). Mille Miglia: Taruffi; DNF. Converted to 121LM. Re-bodied by Scaglietti for Parravano. Daily Herald Trophy, Oulton Park (U.K.): Shelby; DNF. Caracas: Maglioli; DNF. 1956: January: Torrey Pines: Brero; disqualified for push start. Tested by Hans Tanner in February. 1957 Palm Springs: Hill; 1st. Sold to Grandmaison. Sold to Martinez. Raced by Ken Miles in 1958 and Troy Ruttman in 1959 at Pomona. Sold to Bob Sorrell. 1959: Riverside: R. Ward; ? 1989 STPO, restored.


0546LM
121LM
Spyder Scaglietti 1955: Mille Miglia: P. Marzotto; DNF. Le Mans: Trintignant/Schell; DNF. Swedish GP: Castellotti; 3rd. Body up-dated at the factory. Sold to Bill Doheny in USA. Raced extensively by Ernie MacAfee. Glendale; 2nd. Palm Springs: 2nd. Bahama Speed Week; DNF. Hansen Dam; DNF. 1956: Torrey Pines; 2nd. Stockton; 1st. Santa Barbara; 1st. Santa Barbara; 1st. Ernie MacAfee was eventually killed in a crash in this car at Pebble Beach. Rebuilt. 1957: raced by Bruce Kessler at Beverly; 4th and Lime Rock; 1st. Stayed in USA. 1975: sold to Ziering. 1996: sold to Symbolic Motor Car Company. 1997 STPO.

Here 2 121 was was rebodied at the factory and the old body may have been use to rebody 117. Anyway the oil trap for the oil tank just confirm that it was a use body when put on the car in 1955

 

Philippe,
what are the plans with the car once in Belgium? Private collection or does the new owner plan to take it out from time to time? Glad to see it coming to our small country.
Regards
Jurgen

 

I believe that Paul is going to leave it in this condition but make it running and race it. The paint is very good considering his fourty years age and it s better to see a old paint than I new perfect Mercedes paint ( that he never exist 40 years ago )
Everybody is welcome to go and see it in his shop

 

What was the selling $?