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  1. 410SA

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    #1 410SA, May 7, 2008
    There are some wonderful cars featured at next weeks RM Auction in Maranello including SWB and LWB California Spiders, a Competizione Lusso and a 275GTB/4. The estimates on their website, in Euros, indicates that they have confidence that the market for these types of cars is a strong as ever. I'm looking forward to being there as this has become a benchmark event for setting the market for classic Ferraris from year to year.

    Here's a link to the auction page: http://www.rmauctions.com/Default.cfm?SaleCode=FF08
     
  2. DeaneG

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    #2 DeaneG, May 7, 2008
    In a probably-realted note, Tuesday's art sale at Christie's went reasonably well. Most of the buyers were European with fewer Americans than usual.
     
  3. Napolis

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    #3 Napolis, May 7, 2008
    Good Luck!
     
  4. mikesufka

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    #4 mikesufka, May 7, 2008
    Any hint to which one is on your "radar screen"??????????
     
  5. moriaan1

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    #5 moriaan1, May 8, 2008
    Good luck,
    I had the intention to go, but can't find the time, had to skip this year.
    Would love to have seen the ecurie F collection for the last time, I might have put in a bid for a couple of smaller items....
    mr. Swaters had unique items in his possession.

    Hans
     
  6. VIZSLA

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    #6 VIZSLA, May 8, 2008
    After a quick review it seems that most, if not all, (except the Pinin) have classiche certification. Was this a condition of acceptance?
    The actual wording is that it comes with a Classiche package. Same as certification?
     
  7. sicqnus

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    #7 sicqnus, May 8, 2008
    Ferrari 246S Dino Sport has been withdrawn from the Auction by RM.
    Authenticity problems some said. Nothing official, but I doubt it. It has been classiche certified or not ?

    EDIT : / Fake/replica engine with fake ID plate... (what is said).
     
  8. tx246

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    #8 tx246, May 8, 2008
    who knows what the story is? this car has been around for sometime and featured in many magazines. i would be surprised to know what caused the removal
     
  9. Far Out

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    #9 Far Out, May 8, 2008
    #778? Really? I read a great article about it in a car magazine some days ago (current issue of "Oldtimer Markt" for those interested). They mentioned it was over-restored by DK, but no authenticity issues...
     
  10. Napolis

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    #10 Napolis, May 8, 2008
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    #11 greyboxer, May 8, 2008
    '0778' is also on page 58 of June 2008 Motorsport in UK
     
  12. 275gtb6c

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    #12 275gtb6c, May 16, 2008
    As this auction is the benchmark for the current and near future vintage Ferrari market any gossip, news, predictions and results are more than welcome. There are quite some very interesting cars and I am interested in the way they are presented, the actual condition/remarks and of course the sale results.

    Ciao
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  13. 275gtb6c

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    #13 275gtb6c, May 16, 2008
    Why would some one buy a 250 LM on an auction when everybody knows this is the GTC Jean Guikas car? You pay some 15% more, GTC receives 10% less....If you are in the market for such a car and you did your homework, this seems strange......I saw that car some time ago, with a lot of frenchtastic overdone phrases.....At that time the price was considerably less, but so was everything. Ferrari floors get too hot?
    Ciao
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  14. Napolis

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    #14 Napolis, May 16, 2008
    Total mystery to me.

    Dino 0778 seems to have been withdrawn...
     
  15. 410SA

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    #15 410SA, May 16, 2008
    The Dino is having some "Classiche " issues. It's been quite a circus here with Classiche doing their best to ruin the sale while the Ferrari bosses who created this monster gnash their teeth at the lost revenue of having a car withdrawn by their own Theology doctrine department. Not even the Vatican is ever this bad about dogma.
     
  16. Napolis

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    #16 Napolis, May 16, 2008
    :)

    The Monster would likely fine something wrong with my Dino...
     
  17. DM18

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    #17 DM18, May 16, 2008
    Amazing
     
  18. VIZSLA

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    #18 VIZSLA, May 16, 2008
    Is it my imagination or are they reverting to the chaos of the old days? First Sig. B. Berates Massa for "only" winning, now this.
     
  19. Jack-the-lad

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    #19 Jack-the-lad, May 16, 2008
    Yeah, an Italian pit stop of an auction (for those who remember that era), not to mention the political intrigue of the time. This weekend could be very interesting....


    Jack.
     
  20. VIZSLA

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    #20 VIZSLA, May 16, 2008
    The very phrase I was thinking of (if that doesn't date me too much).
     
  21. Birel

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    #21 Birel, May 16, 2008
    Its my opinion that Jean Guikas has maybe despaired of drawing "new blood" customers to a nondescript sales facility in a low rent French city. On the other hand the Vatican honeypot of Ferrari has always drawn the glitterati and its just possible some coked up front row punter will realise on Monday morning he got carried away a bit. Nothing like a bit of peer pressure to spur things along and RM do a spectacular job in generating that !
     
  22. VIZSLA

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    #22 VIZSLA, May 16, 2008
    Sure you're not thinking of Scottsdale? :)
     
  23. tritone

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    #23 tritone, May 17, 2008
    Jack - if memory serves, didn't we refer to that activity as a "chinese fire-drill"?



    Tritone

    (my apologies in advance for the lack of global political-correctness.......)
     
  24. VIZSLA

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    #24 VIZSLA, May 17, 2008
    Originally yes, but it was adapted to fit.
     
  25. 275gtb6c

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    #25 275gtb6c, May 17, 2008
    Indeed the 246S has been removed from the list (shame, that car has my name on it........) and I never heard of a 212 inter europa.
    Still an impressive list though.

    The latest list:

    1980 Ferrari Pinin Prototipo
    1972 Ferrari Dino 246 GT
    1958 Ferrari 250 GT Coupe
    1963 Ferrari 330 America
    1973 Ferrari 365 GTB/4 Daytona
    1979 Ferrari 512BB
    2008 Ferrari 612 Scaglietti
    2001 Ferrari 550 Barchetta
    1995 Ferrari 412 T2
    1995 Ferrari 412 T2 F1 Engine
    1958 Ferrari 250 GT EllenaCoupe
    1951 Ferrari 195 Inter
    1971 Ferrari 365 GTS/4 Daytona Spyder
    1990 Ferrari F40/LM
    2006 Maserati MC12
    1962 Ferrari 250 GT Lusso "Comp"
    1997 Ferrari F310B
    1971 Ferrari 512M
    2004 Ferrari Enzo
    1963 Ferrari 250 GT/L Berlinetta
    1976 Ferrari 512 BB
    1973 Ferrari Dino 246 GT
    1951 Ferrari 340 America Coupe
    1967 Ferrari Dino 206 GT
    2000 Ferrari F1-2000
    1966 Ferrari 275 GTS
    1952 Ferrari 212 Inter Europa Coupe
    1967 Ferrari 275 GTB/4
    1961 Ferrari 250 GT SWB California Spyder
    2007 Ferrari F430 GT2
    1989 Ferrari F40 Valeo
    1958 Ferrari 250 GT Ellena Coupe
    1973 Ferrari Dino 246 GTS
    1950 Ferrari 166/195 Inter Berlinetta
    1999 Ferrari 333SP
    1996 Ferrari F 310
    1971 Ferrari 365 GTB/4 Daytona
    1958 Ferrari 250 GT LWB California Spyder
    1961 Ferrari PF 250 GT SII Cabriolet
    1991 Ferrari F40
    1964 Ferrari 250LM
    1996 Ferrari F50
    2003 Ferrari Enzo
    2005 Ferrari F360 GTC
    1987 Ferrari F1 / 87
    1974 Ferrari 365 GT4 BB
     
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