Message to Mr.Marcel MASSINI

Are you the same "Fulvio Visoli" referred to in this article?

What was the outcome of this investigation?

http://ricerca.repubblica.it/repubblica/archivio/repubblica/1993/07/08/la-truffa-delle-false-ferrari-quelle.html

How about this article?

same questions:

http://www.riviera24.it/articoli/2009/05/13/61249/la-truffa-sulla-doppia-vendita-di-una-ferrari-da-3-miliardi-di-lire-parte-il-dibattimento-a-sanremo

 

Well, this should be interesting.....

 

Scootch over and pass the popcorn this direction...

 

Pass the soda as well!

 

I'm ordering a pizza. THIS should be good.

 

Mojito and tacos please!

 

Well I've been Ralphed.

 

Jim,
can you give a summary for those of us that don't understand Italian.

George

 

that would be great.
"I hate brokers"

 

Google Translater or copy and paste it
into babblefish.

 

Some very well known stories about fakes 275/250 LM/MM... which involved many Italian Ferrari specialists in the '80s and '90s.

Indeed I can only say that Visioli restored over 15 years ago my 512 BB and is still running very well!

 

The Google translate button works well enough to give you the gist, along with a few funny translated phrases.

Let's just say that it isn't pretty.

This one could make Goldstein look like an amateur.

 

THE FRAUD OF FALSE FERRARI ' THOSE ARE NOT REAL RED '
Republic - July 8, 1993 page 21 section: CHRONICLE

MODENA - Montezemolo must have thought this to Cavallino is a really bad year . Steps to Bankruptcy season in Formula 1. Steps to the crisis in the automotive market , the layoffs , the stock of Gran Turismo parked , sadly , in the square in Maranello. But now , stealing the "bread" and sell Ferrari , we also put two former mechanic is just too much. It's too beautiful , but old ones were beautiful " Woman in Red " ended up in private collections and moguls love the myth that while you have a Ferrari 250 Le Mans paid no attention to costs . So beautiful that to understand that this was a bluff , the biggest bluff in the history of fake Ferrari have had to the same technical Horse engine and chassis to submit to a check-up on materials. A test that has exposed the scam millionaire set up by two former Maranello mechanics and a known dealer 'drive 's era. It happens about ten kilometers from the home of Drake, in two villages where the ' love of Ferrari is gutted and the sound of car under test accompanies the days . When judges and prosecutors convened in the home of three engines Swiss collectors , pieces of deception , falls 's last film of truth: " ... so are false, but not destroy it . These are works of art ' , he pleaded in tears a collector of Swiss men and the Flying Squad Criminalpol . To this end, there ' has shocked if the temptation el ' love has two body-builders 'drive 's time the masters of false- Ferrari, who knows how many collectors today shakes . To start the car 's survey was the same Ferrari Auto , which reported his suspicions to the Mobile Team Modena . Months of investigations , research in the archives of the Motherhouse on serial numbers of chassis and engine of the market ' car on historical ' axis Italy -Switzerland- United States. Eventually, the ' ad men of Mobile Modena and Cremona and the deputy prosecutor Donatella Santini , the Criminalpol : "We have uncovered the largest round of counterfeit Ferrari cars of recent years. A scam to tens of billions and that has ramifications to ' foreign and overseas . " Eight people complained , including three Swiss . But the characters with their love for the Reds have set up around the billionaire are essentially three . Former Mechanical Horse , Silvano Cantelli , 58 , resident of Casinalbo and owner of ' workshop ' to MEC and Brandoli Egidio , 53, manager of a laboratory restyling 'drive 's time in Montale . With them , accused of counterfeiting products with patents, but that if the investigation will record other developments , risks the ' allegation 'fraud to ' national economy ' , and Fulvio Visioli , 47, of Cremona former dealer of the same Ferrari well-known figure in the world of collectors of vintage cars . In their garages were discovered chassis, engines and " Ferrari " ready to be sold. 'The business was started in a legitimate manner but then the market price of the car 's vintage Ferrari , the constant demands 's purchase led to ' illegal and now it comes to understanding how many of these cars have been sold and are out the world in the hands of unsuspecting buyers billionaires , "admits Anthony Apruzzese , Head of Mobile Modena . A Cantarelli was responsible for building the frame. Brandoli took care of ' assembly and Cremona by Visioli , was assembled the "heart " of the car engine . Masters bodybuilders who also designs and original designs of the most beautiful cars from Maranello . From the serial number of the frame of Le Mans , perfectly identical to ' hold its authentic Dealer Cremonese , we come to solving the "yellow " , giving a response to the many suspicions reported by Ferrari to the police. A scam to tens of billions and that, according to evidence gathered by investigators , yielded to the masters of the false Horse around half a billion as a model . - GIANLUCA of PEDRAZZI

The scam double sale of a Ferrari from 3 billion francs , the national debate in Sanremo
Sanremo - On the dock , the owner of the valuable car Fulvio Visioli , Casalmaggiore (Cremona ) that the injured party and ' quickly past the dock . It is said that the car belonged to the knight Ferrari.

and is ' open today in court in San Remo , the trial for fraud and slander on the double sale of a vintage Ferrari , the '250 mm Barchetta ' , worth around 3 billion lire , which was rumored Chevalier belonged to Ferrari. The dock , the owner of the valuable car Fulvio Visioli , Casalmaggiore (Cremona ) that the injured party and ' quickly past the dock . The facts date back to 2002 and relate to a laborious investigation, running from San Remo and the sale of the car period , the proceeds of which would serve to cover the participation of a real estate deal , however, did not go ' never successful. Car that apparently was sold by the owner to twice as many buyers, the dispute between them, as they both claim legitimate ownership . At the hearing , held before the single judge Lawrence Purpura , have been heard several financiers who attended the delicate investigation and seized the car . The accused and ' defended by Alessandro Moroni appeared .




of Fabrizio Tenerello

13/05/2009

The scam double sale of a Ferrari from 3 billion francs , the national debate in Sanremo
Sanremo - On the dock , the owner of the valuable car Fulvio Visioli , Casalmaggiore (Cremona ) that the injured party and ' quickly past the dock . It is said that the car belonged to the knight Ferrari.

and is ' open today in court in San Remo , the trial for fraud and slander on the double sale of a vintage Ferrari , the '250 mm Barchetta ' , worth around 3 billion lire , which was rumored Chevalier belonged to Ferrari. The dock , the owner of the valuable car Fulvio Visioli , Casalmaggiore (Cremona ) that the injured party and ' quickly past the dock . The facts date back to 2002 and relate to a laborious investigation, running from San Remo and the sale of the car period , the proceeds of which would serve to cover the participation of a real estate deal , however, did not go ' never successful. Car that apparently was sold by the owner to twice as many buyers, the dispute between them, as they both claim legitimate ownership . At the hearing , held before the single judge Lawrence Purpura , have been heard several financiers who attended the delicate investigation and seized the car . The accused and ' defended by Alessandro Moroni appeared .

 

Substantial accusations from a person throwing rocks whilst aboard a sinking ship.

 

While Jim's posting of these translations will help non Italian speakers that translation software is a joke, as anyone who speaks Italian will agree, thank God for those of us who occasionally get paid for just that!

Wonder if the chap in this story is related to the one selling the mystery Ferrari in southern Italy last year

MS

 

message is brokers beware.

 

Unless I missed something, Marcel does seem to have disappeared from F-Chat.
Anyone heard form him lately? I for one always enjoyed what I saw as his ability to cut through the less than correct.
Tom B

 

Saw him last week - he traveling....

 

Marcel is in Austin, Texas educating the natives.

 

I miss his book on the 250LM.

 

2nd message, after the warning about brokers.

Do NOT challenge Marcel Massini without absolute proof you have the full story. He almost always has the full story about anything Ferrari, with the relevant documentation. AND he is among the most gracious and generous sharers of that information I have ever met.

Regards,

Jim Walker
36 GT 2+2 #12451

 

Here here.

 

OMG, what happened?

 

Rob 'accidently' dropped it in his fireplace

Googling will do that to you