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Miami Grand Prix Update: More "Local Opposition"

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  1. BartonWorkman

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    Correct, and you don't see ISC/Homestead directly making the accusations about noise or crowds, etc.

    They hire a lobbying firm called "Better Florida Alliance" (who's sole client seems to be the ISC) to do their
    bidding for them, they're the ones who come up with all this nonsense, hire attorneys, distort facts and
    otherwise make anyone attempting to put a deal like this together miserable.

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    Other than the crowd Chaz mentioned I don't recall any resistance from ISC or Better Florida Alliance. It was a pretty low key thing. And it all happened not too far from Homestead. So I guess all of your suppositions on ISC fighting anything within 100 miles of their tracks, a $30 million war chest, and Better Florida Alliance are all wrong.
     
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    #28 BartonWorkman, Oct 4, 2019
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    Well, see if this is wrong...

    A new report on the Miami Herald this morning has it that the residents of Miami Gardens are now opposing
    the Miami Grand Prix due to the exact same reasons which were reportedly being brought forward by concerned
    downtown Miami residents (IE: noise, smog, traffic, the course going through their neighborhoods, etc).

    Again, if you think that the ISC/Homestead aren't fighting having F-1 in the Miami area with every fiber of their being,
    then you're living in a fools paradise.

    They are using a shadowy lobbying group with ties all the way to Tallahassee to do there biding for them. Is this online petition an illusion?

    https://www.betterfloridaalliance.org/petitions

    To my opinion now, there will be no Miami Grand Prix so the whole argument is rather moot at this point. Liberty
    is going to lose patience and move on eventually.

    https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/article235771927.html

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    The article doesn’t mention either ISC or BFA. Perhaps the folks in Miami Gardens don’t want it either. Maybe they could race in Opa lLocka where there is a brand new track that is not very close to many residents?

    It’s a shame a Miami GP would be cool. But it has to be downtown it won’t have any international flair out west.


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    “Formula One racing would never be allowed in a rich neighborhood,” Lynette Hickenbottom told commissioners Thursday.

    Lol, Monaco says "hold my beer". :)

    For the life of me I can't imagine F1 and Murder Gardens in the same sentence let alone an actual race in that area. We are doomed.
     
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    South Florida is the most corrupt place I have ever lived. When I left, 4 of the 7 county commissioners were in jail for corruption as I recall.
    Glad not to be living there these days.

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    Looks like 2021 F1 race in Miami at HardRock Stadium. The Dolphins are not using it why not F1?
     
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    Hard Rock Stadium is where Dolphins' opponents come for tune-up games.

    Event is subject to County Commission ratification. Be assured that Homestead's lobbyists are
    going to swoop in and scare the crap out of everyone within a five mile radius of the stadium and
    leverage commissioners to vote against.

    From what I've read so far, two commissioners are already firmly against.

    It's going to get ugly real fast.

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    I don't know the politics, but F1 reached an agreement with Hard Rock. We will see.
    It will be a fun road course for track days. :)

    The stadium is right off the highway? I don't remember the stadium grounds being large enough to support an F1 track. For example COTA is a 400-500 acre parcel.
     
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    Politics is always ugly. Nothing new.
     
  12. GuyIncognito

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    zing!

    :p
     
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  13. GuyIncognito

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    Hard Rock stadium complex is ~150 acres. They ran races at bayside park and Tamiami Park in the past (Indycar/IMSA), and the Meadowlands in NJ, not to mention Monaco; so I'm sure they'll figure it out.

    one interesting thing is the majority of the parking to the west of the stadium is mostly grass. some paving company is going to get a nice contract ;)
     
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    Lots of chatter on social media about this yesterday and today. Castronovo even brought it up this morning on the radio. Someone is doing a strong PR push, hope it works.

    I did see the protests on the news. I couldn’t stop laughing when they spoke of the severe environmental impact to Miami Gardens.

    Ironically if it passes Miami Gardens won’t see the tourism benefits. No way anyone is spending time there other than to see the race. You’ll see everyone helicopter in from Miami.
     

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