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  1. ktu

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    Extremely untrue. I advice you step out of Fchat when you get a chance.
     
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  2. ktu

    ktu F1 Rookie

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    What if someone crashed on the last lap?
     
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    #403 ingegnere, Jan 13, 2022
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    Er, you mean articles written by the pro-HAM British press that get regurgitated in the English language press echo chamber.

    I can guarantee that if that was a Ferrari driver in HAM’s position and HAM in Max’s place and things played out as they you’d hear not a peep from the Brit press. Just like 1990 when Senna in the McLaren torpedoed Ferrari driver Prost at the start of the title-deciding race in Japan. Not a peep.

    In summary, Max is champion. Period. Take Damon Hill’s advice—get over it!

    https://racingnews365.com/hill-urges-hamilton-fans-get-over-it
     
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  4. crinoid

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    Wow. When Damon Hill is telling you to get a pair, you know it’s a sad state.
     
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  5. ingegnere

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    Thanks dude but I don’t need your advice (proper use of the word, BTW). Luckily for me I can read and write in 3 languages which is about 3 more than you, LOL, so have plenty of options to get my info.
     
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  6. jpalmito

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    It wasn’t.
     
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    #407 ricksb, Jan 14, 2022
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    not just the British press…the reality is that the final was a siht-show, like it or not. Your comment regarding Max is a straw man.,,show me where I’ve suggested he isn’t WDC. We’re on two different planes…you’re arguing Max won the title. I’m arguing that Masi is a screw up. Both things could be true, perhaps?

    The thread IS about Masi being fired though. I think my posts rightfully are written regarding that. I didn’t see a subtitle asking “did Max really win the championship?” If so, I didn’t address that as I don’t consider it an issue.

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  8. F2003-GA

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    This must be the only video in existence where Damon couldn't squeeze in a reference to Schumacher.
     
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  10. Bas

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    A fact ignored/forgotten (despite constant reminders) by those arguing otherwise.
     
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  11. Phil~

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    Green flag conditions, when possible. Not to break a rule.

    And that was not set specifically for this race. It was set months before as a general guideline to work towards. What happened at Abu Dhabi was much more extreme.
     
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  12. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

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    yeah erm, no. That doesn't fly with me, sorry.

    If all teams collectively agreed with the FIA to finish a race under green conditions "when possible", I would fully put in the understanding that "exceptions" would be made so long as it's safe in order to do just that. The track was safe. Why would they agree to such a rule otherwise? It's not as if just because it's near the end of the race the race director would keep the SC out "because the race is over in a lap or 2 anyways". That doesn't make any sense.
     
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    A lot of Lewis fans can’t just accept two things:
    1/ for once he was unlucky.
    2/ Mercedes was wrong in its strategy at the most crucial moment.
    Do not look elsewhere ..
     
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    FIA would like to thank Mr Masi for all he has done ......we wish him well in his future endeavours ......
     
  16. Phil~

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    So where is this green flag rule in the regulations?
     
  17. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

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    Utterly irrelevant. If teams and the FIA collectively agree to do something, or make exemptions, they do just that.

    It's a bit like the 107% rule. How many times has that been circumvented because the teams collectively decided it was ok?
     
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  18. ktu

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    Only 3 languages? Thats below average. Why did you embarrass yourself in front of us?
     
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    Thanks for proving my point: English language press echo-chamber and picked up by completely uninformed, non-F1 woke press pushing their agenda of the oppressed—in this case a millionaire that was allowed to win 7 times—being done in by “the man”.
     
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    Well by that measure one must assume MV's die hard fans believe Masi did nothing wrong.

    In which I'd say is a totally incorrect assumption.

    This is not about Max as in whether he is a worthy WDC or not, it's about the huge screw up Masi made in the final race, and other dubious calls made throughout the season.

    IMO Masi has put the FIA in a untenable position that cannot be defended successfully against criticism or attack, at present replacing him seems the only option.
     
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  21. mcimino

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    If Masi get sacked, Red Bull should hire him as a non-executive chairman. :D
     
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  22. ingegnere

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    Not a die hard Max fan and obviously Masi did nothing wrong per the rules (except in the minds of disappointed HAM fans and acolytes) and this is evidenced by the fact that the results stand and the the Merc protest was withdrawn because not likely to succeed.

    Where’s all the indignation and what was the fallout of the these “other dubious calls” made by Masi (not the stewards)? I say nothing because a certain whining (whinging?) 7-times champ was not affected by those other calls. The Spa decision to award points for a non-race was celebrated by the Brit press because of the “great result” for Russell and Williams as well as ruing the loss of a potential win for Norris if he’d kept it in the track during qualifying. Where was the indignation about that call? Where was CNN and Trevor Noah?

    “Untenable”, the word the English press echo chamber is trying to attach to Masi in his role as Race Director.
     
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  23. Phil~

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    So why have any rules at all?

    Masi would have stayed within the rules if he stood by his original call for no cars to unlap. That call would have honored the agreement for green flag conditions. We'd have a lap of racing, winner takes all.

    So, why didn't he? Let's have an honest answer.
     
  24. william

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    Why aren't the Max' fanboys brigade happy their hero has just won his first WDC title?

    What are they trying to prove now? Do they want as well to become Masi's fanboys?
     
  25. Bas

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    Here you go again trying to get with this ''why are they not happy'' rhetoric. We very much are happy. We're just annoyed with the comments from your neck of the woods who keep shouting Max isn't the right champion and that he's only champion because Masi made it so. If we don't say anything, you lot will actually believe you're right.
     

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