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Michael Masi gets fired/replaced?

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  1. SirTony76

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    Unfortunately racing isn't like football where you can easily stop the game while you sort a situation out, but that's the nature of it.

    Every situation is different and there were many questionable calls throughout the entire season, but ultimately Masi has a tough job--its just the nature of racing. Lewis and Max were both fierce competitors and drove awesome the entire season unfortunately one of them had to lose, but ultimately I would hate for the guy who came first on the racetrack to ultimately get overturned in a court/legal battle.
     
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  2. PureEuroM3

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    I would disagree. No sport ever really comes to the final race/game. He didn't get robbed because of one race.

    It was 22 races of back and fourth wins, 2nds, accidents, mistakes, fastest laps, etc...

    It is in times like these you really realize some of the strategy calls for those fastest laps to put or Perez stealing the point from Hamilton. The year is over Max won. Nothing to say but the best team and driver won.
     
  3. SirTony76

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    Agree Tamas!
     
  4. moretti

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    Masi did a great job, he told Horner and Wolf to PO and go racing, the fact Hamilton lost is just the icing on the cake, could have only been better if Ferrari won :)

    Trust all of the crybabies to go looking for a head to hunt ... they should be looking at that arsehole Wolf and his team of stategists
     
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  5. lagunacc

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    Precisely, total hubris - Toto fell apart like a clown and the MB pit was in total disarray.
    Reality check.
     
  6. root

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    Max will have an asterisk next to his first championship as it was wholly undeserved and delivered to him by Masi the Yoyo.
     
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  7. Terra

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    Agreed.
     
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  8. Terra

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    How so?
     
  9. Terra

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    And during those last five laps, there should be zero DRS restrictions.
     
  10. SS454

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    The championship was 22 races long right?
     
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  11. root

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    Was not determined until the last race which was clearly won by Hamilton until Masi made a mess of it in the last lap
     
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  12. SS454

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    It only went down to the last race because of events that happened during the season. Silverstone is always going to be a key moment since it was a 26 pt swing caused by Lewis, and the FIA did nothing but a slap on the wrist.

    Hamilton had the win in the bag until he was hit with some terrible luck. SC came out, that sucks for him. Everyone in the world expected a restart where Verstappen would be right behind Lewis. The initial decision to not follow their own procedures and let lapped cars go by would have solidified the championship for Lewis and have been far more controversial.

    The FIA and Stewards have made a joke of F1 this season, probably to ensure views and ratings and interest all the way down to the very last race. It's only fitting they would find a way to involve themselves in a way that decides the final race, which because of them, also decided the championship.
     
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  13. Bas

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    Yes I think so. Things like the final lap sc overtakings yesterday, are all fully within his own right. I do think he made an absolute **** show of the entire season. However, Most decisions went against max, max also had really bad luck (just baku and hungary, forget Silverstone). Max is the deserved champion imo.

    Just like in 94 when fia did everything to help Hill...people focus on one moment in one race. Schumacher deserved thst championship as well.
     
  14. subirg

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    ^^^ I agree. I think the problem now is that all the teams realise the race director decision is based on what’s best for the show, not what’s correct racing rules. As I think many have already said, it’s all a bit WWE. This needs sorting out. Sporting purity is ultimately more important - and when you’re investing hundreds of millions a year trying to compete, you want to be sure of the rules of play.

    Long term, the consequences of this shambles are that the big manufacturers could pull the plug and go elsewhere.

    But at the end of the day, we can have no arguments with Max being WDC. He performed amazingly well this year, and took the second best car to the title. Special shout out to the RB strategists as well they were excellent this year.
     
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  15. Flavio_C

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    “No Mykil, no no Mykil, that was so not right” :D:D:D
     
  16. Flavio_C

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    The entire championship “wholly” undeserved? Did you watch all other 21 races? Did you see the unfair advantage Lewis got at the beginning of the race?

    Mercedes bet in the safe side, RBR on the risk side. Championship decided on the last lap fair and square. Whoever doesn’t agree is a sore loser.
     
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  17. Bas

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    Oh please. Did you watch anything at all or just the last race? Fin has been making decisions against max and Red Bull since the first race of the season, hell even the start of the final race was bizarre…and 1 decision goes against Lewis suddenly it’s an asterisk?
     
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  18. Mosin

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    So why wasnt Sainz given an chance to improve his position? or any one else apart from those directly owned by Redbull? How come Lec wasnt given a chance to better his position, why wasnt the normal procedure done? how come ( Take note i watch f1 for ferrari not Merc or Redbull LH or MV ) But for Sainz and Lec and my team, IF that was either of them last lap and the race director changes rules to have my driver beat ill be fcking furious........ i am still mad that Sainz wasnt given a chance to sneak a win as he would have been able to do while LH and MV was fighting for the championship not race victory so they might not have bothered fighting Sainz off and just focus on one another.... its principle and fair racing, what happened was not fair and only benifitted MV.

    Fix in my opinion.
     
  19. Mosin

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    Considering MV was proved to have brake tested LH the race befor which is a standard DQ and got away pretty much penalty free ( That would have resulted in LH being crowned unless he failed to score a single point in the last race ) i would say it was in MV, so was most of the decisions all season... the incident on lap one was right, MV pushed LH off track 5 sec penalty according to the rules, Lewis was only 1 sec ahead afterwards so had gained no advantage
     
  20. SS454

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    A fair point, but what do you believe to be the normal SC procedure? For years now it has been to allow the lapped cars to go by, which during 2021 the SC period has lasted just 3 laps on average.

    Also have you heard any team complain about the final SC decision? Like you said, some of these guys are racing for position and maybe even points. Wouldn't some of these teams be protesting too?
     
  21. Mosin

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    I have seen no teams complaining, but some of the drivers was not very happy.

    https://www.racefans.net/2021/12/13/f1s-midfield-runners-left-speechless-and-confused-by-controversial-late-restart/
     
  22. Bas

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    Max didn't push Lewis of track. Lewis choose to go off track and gained a huge advantage.
     
  23. Mosin

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    No, lh was ahead on turn in for the apex of the corner and mv dived down the inside failing to leave lh room on the outside to continue round the conlrner, mv as masi told redbull on the radio pushed lh off which is why they didnt complain any more as they knew the stewards would have given max 5 secs in stead.
     
  24. Bas

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    What?!:p
     
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  25. Mosin

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    #50 Mosin, Dec 13, 2021
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    Go watch the reply of the radio for the next two laps after, the incident, redbull was to complaining to masi and masi said mv pushed lh off track and that the stewards agreed which was why lh didnt get forced to hand the place back. Its clearly heard during the race a lap or two may be more afterwards.. This is because pushing some one off track carrys a five sec penalty and would have ruined any sort of race with lh happy to sit behind a slow struggling redbull till the end of the race.. And take that 5 sec penalty win.

    Just want to add it would have been served at the pit stop, so lewis still would have took the lead and drove off as he did any way completely dominating the race
     

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