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  1. Fast_ian

    Fast_ian Two Time F1 World Champ

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    Where I live, he'd be in bigger "trouble" if caught with a cigarette.....

    I don't think it'll cost him anything in endorsement/sponsorship $ - Who cares? [It does help to explain his immense breakfasts however :)]

    As to the "gateway drug" argument, please check the many reports that say otherwise.

    A buddy of mine was basically "driven out" of the (pill popping, legalized) industry for trying to maintain a "serious" medical trial wrt the benefits of "pot" - Pain relief, appetite enhancement etc - The data is in, but the pill pushers don't want to acknowledge it. IMHO.

    Cheers,
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  2. JamesSimpson

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    heard on the radio this morning that OMEGA and SPEEDO are keeping him on and "will stand behind him".....maybe hold the lighter for him?
     
  3. 62 250 GTO

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    How does slamming alcohol help the fight to decriminalize weed? I don't think alcohol will ever be criminalized, so that again is a poor starting point.
     
  4. 62 250 GTO

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    Comparing it to another drug which is also illegal won't work either. The first driver to get in a wreck while high on weed will put the debate into overdrive, MADD, AA and whoever esle is out they will pick up the fight against weed.

    I don't care one way or the other but these weak positions won't help your cause.
     
  5. rob lay

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    I'm just saying look outside of the box of what is legal or not legal. There are politics involved and the law may not be right.

    Decriminalizing pot will allow all those billions of dollars, man hours, and prison beds to be used against crimes and drugs that are MORE detrimental to our society. Another benefit will be the taxation of the pot business and control of the product (not tainted with harmful substances like acid, X, chemicals, etc). WIN - WIN.
     
  6. rob lay

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    They will do stats and they will find accidents caused by high drivers. In the same study they will also find more accidents caused by talking on the cell phone, smoking a cigarette, drinking a coffee, and maybe even singing. :)
     
  7. 62 250 GTO

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    Again, I don't care and think weed is pretty much harmless to society {your lungs may take issue with it though}. I just don't see a strong argument for the decriminalization process. It's already being used for its medicinal value and I don't think there's a reasonable argument for its recreational value.... You may have a point there about all the money being spent along with all of the man power but even that's weak to a degree. It comes across like "Dad, everyone does it, don't ground me, why fight it, just go with the flow ."

    I do wonder how much money it would bring in though....
     
  8. 62 250 GTO

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    Singing, don't get me started on THOSE people! Damn hippies.
     
  9. iceburns288

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    I compared it to alcohol, which is bizarrely legal. My 'weak positions' aren't so much personal positions as simply diffusing common myths used by the strong anti-cannabis crowd. Such that it is addictive, gateway drug, etc.
     
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  11. fat cab

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    ferrarikid308m was asking about the smoking apparatus "bong" . Not the watch...
     
  12. EC308

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    I second that.
     
  13. Seamaster007

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    Like any good athletes, he is having his Wheedies (DAMN THAT WAS GOOD!!!)
     
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    What would Phelps think would happen?
     
  16. amslb182

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    Dumb on Phelp's part, he should have known he would get caught in that venue, and should have been more discreet about smoking if that is something he likes to do. i dont think it is anyones business is he hits a bong at a party, I am surprised though that he hasnt lost any sponsorships however. I too feel marijuana should be decriminalized. I am not so sure about it not being a gateway drug though. Dont get me wrong it doesnt make you want other drugs, or feel like you need something stronger. However when you start smoking, say in high school or college you then start hanging around people who smoke, than inevitably meet people who have done coke, x, acid, mushrooms, prescription pain killers, etc, they spark your interest in other things and then you start experimenting. As someone who has smoked once or twice i have seen this scenario play out more than once. However that is something that could be argued that decriminalizing marijuana would change as it would make it change the whole scene that pot smoking is. It also makes me think though how many more people would want to try other drugs after they get bored with pot. This would probably end up eating all the DEA money that was going towards pot prevention. Its a never ending circle i guess. We're screwed either way.
     
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    Everyone has a vice, some drink alcohol others prefer plants. lol

    TO each his own errrrr.lol
     
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    Kellogg dumps Phelps:

    http://adage.com/article?article_id=134363

    "We originally built the relationship with Michael, as well as the other Olympic athletes, to support our association with the U.S. Olympic team," a Kellogg spokeswoman said in a statement. "Michael's most recent behavior is not consistent with the image of Kellogg. His contract expires at the end of February and we have made a decision not to extend his contract."
     
  20. Akira

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    I don't get it. Phelps getting DUI is okay with sponsors, but smoking some pot is no go? I think DUI is a lot worse than smoking pot but that's just me.
     
  21. agup48

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    His sponsors dropped him when he got his DUI as well.
     
  22. robert biscan

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    He got dropped by the cereal people. They will not renew his deal. The guy worked his ass off and didn't choke and really set a record. I understand kicking back and chilling out after all that effort. Too bad for him someone, maybe a friend sold him out. It is not a good thing to get out in the public view and it hurt his image tied to the DUI before. Just because you are the greatest swimmer doesn't mean you can control your youthful screw ups. When I was in my youth drinking and driving was accepted almost as long as you were not falling down drunk. I am sure lots of us in our life were at the line or over it a few times. I recognize the dangers of such activity and in my older age have stopped this stuff. Now I am upset if someone else is doing it. I am surprised that the alcohol companies haven't somehow been sued like crazy like the cigarette industry. In Tn. if you go into a gas station there is an ice bucket with single beer in it near the cash register. People drink and drive and this is an tool to enable them to do so. I think this should be stopped and that possibly beer sales should be closer controlled. When I lived in Pa. you could only buy beer at the beer distributor. The beer went into your trunk and you had to show your I.D. straight away. If you wanted to drink and drive at least you had to pull over and get one out of the trunk. I never did that. You of course could still get drunk at a bar just like anywhere else. Beer was not sold in the supermarket, gas station or any other little market.
    Having said all that the guy should be punished in some way to get him to grow up.
     
  23. TexasF355F1

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    I can understand them dropping him since a lot of their products are marketed specifically towards kids.

    Although they could have had a new cereal and called it Phelps Pots! Little sugar coated corn or rice puffed canabis leaves and bongs.
     
  24. rob lay

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    I think Phelps messed up big time and will pay the price in money and abuse by the media. I can easily see how this happened though. First of all, he has some learning disabilities and maybe an average IQ at best. He has also been somewhat sheltered and naive focusing only on swimming since he was younger than 14. Under Bowman at University of Michigan he wasn't on the college team, just trained with the elite athletes and maybe took one or two courses. The college campus can be a fish bowl (ha!) where he worked out 6-8 hours a day and returned to a college house to rest and eat. In the college fish bowl the lifestyle of smoking a "bowl" (ha!) can seem quite normal. Everyone does it, no public attention, and campus authorities tend to overlook because it would give them bad press. So in the mixed up world of a college campus chilling with a "bowl" IS actually normal. From personal experience I can also tell you that swimming in college requires an opposite release to be in balance. You already have your full school load (Phelps didn't, but he also worked out twice as hard), you might have a job, and you are swimming 6 days a weeks with 2 a day work outs. We worked out way too hard and way too tired to party during the week. Once you left practice at night you only thought about eating, getting school work done, stretching and sleeping looking forward to waking up at 4:30am for morning practice. Just to survive practice your mind already had to be focused for those 12 hours in-between on recovery and not doing anything that would make next practice any more miserable. So you go through this routine all week and typically had a meet Saturday morning. After the meet you were pumped up and there wasn't another practice until Monday morning. You now had 40 hours of freedom! Man, however good we were for 6 days we sure made up for it that one day a week. The swim team was legendary on our campus for the Saturday partying. Each Senior group between men and woman's team would always get 2-3 campus suites next to each other. The campus knew when the swim team got back mid-afternoon on Saturday where the party was. It was an intense release and I think required, although there were several that didn't drink or smoke, but they still took part in the "release". Now I can imagine Phelps working out daily 2-3 times a day building this up all through the year, the Olympic Trials, and then the Olympics. I'm sure Phelps had a release that could be heard around the World and lasted weeks. Well, it actually was heard around the World. I blame the agent for not reminding Phelps he was in the public eye and not to do anything stupid as everyone had a camera phone. He needed to be reminded what was once normal wasn't normal anymore. Outside the "fish bowl" was no place for a "bowl".
     
  25. Gilles27

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    Rob,

    I think you're spot-on. One of my first thoughts was "If ANYONE deserved a few bingo sessions, it's Phelps!" The guy had just come off one of the most intense training & performance stretches humanly possible, and a little R&R was in well-earned and in order. Unfortunately, as the consensus says, he should have been paying attention to the company he was keeping. Too bad, really.
     

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