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Micro oil filter add-on system for various Ferrari models

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  1. dave80gtsi

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    When I had the gearbox out of my TR, the oil pickups were spotless. I believe regular maintenance is all that is needed!
     
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    Expensive solution to a problem that doesn't really exist in properly-maintained car.
     
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    Adding an external filter is a common mod to many cars / race cars This appears to be a similar thing to the Amsoil external bypass filter I have wondered why someone does not fit a bigger ( longer ) filter in the stock location looks like there is room ? as long as the specs EG pressure relief is similar to stock there would be no issue but the Ferrai engine does hold a lot of oil ! as well, a great addition would be a moroso engine pre-oiler! below is one used on a porsche - EG fr summit racing! a simple pressurized cylinder that feeds oil when a solenoid is switched on and it re-fills by engine oil pressure ( something similar is used on GA aircraft which also sit for long periods unused! ) here is a bigger filter we fitted to a Saab viggen and one a bit bigger than the stock one we were using before ! added about a liter more oil [​IMG] Image Unavailable, Please Login this one above , left uses a manual valve
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    When I cut open my original filter after oil change. Virtually nothing in there! Why would you need a larger capacity oil filter. Also some bad quality issues with Fram filters lately. :EI Someone I know, new filter on DD, leaking at crimp, returns to parts store. Pulls new one off shelf, bad crimp also.
     
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    Almost all filters are made by only two companies !- they make multiple brands, at the same factory ! there are lots of untrue stories and anecdotal rumors about Fram filters yet they are highly rated ! ( by experts ) If there was a serious systemic issue w/ Fram filters there would be lawsuits galore in the USA ! A larger filter, from an engineering standpoint, is a good thing as it will absorb more contaminants, has more surface area, etc In the application where the large Fram was used/ fitted ? the DD car holds only 4 liters of oil ! so more is a good thing! ( and it was a $7 upgrade ! ) .Most contaminants in a used filter are on a very small micron level and it is doubtless you would see them ! if you see large pieces? there is a problem! .................there are many different brands of filters so one can use whatever they prefer! they are all made to a standard and are essentially the same w/ minor variations! usually, several brands are available for the same application - except Ferrari?
     
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    Blackstone does awesome work highly recommended ! from what I have read, the etiology of the rod bearing/ rod issue may be not changing oil often enough? or is it that Ferraris sit for long periods of time not driven ? - this would be logical if the oft-reported rumor of the $1K Ferrari oil change was true! - (Frankly, it is SO easy I don't know why everyone does not change their own oil/filter! ) I think it would be very helpful to fit a Moroso oil accumulator/ pre-oiler to a Ferrari ! it is a very simple device used by many racers and in GA aircraft! it consists of a cylindrical device w/ a piston inside. oil on one side pressurized air on the other. prior to start up, an electric solenoid ( or a mechanical valve ) opens and feeds oil under pressure thru the engine to "pre-oil " it ! the oil expelled is then automatically replenished when the motor starts by the engine oil pump! It will also supply oil whenever needed automatically if there is a drop in pressure ! this has saved many a motor fr issues like a major oil leak and sudden loss of pressure and given guys time to 'shut er' down before a catastrophic failure! .............................................I can see it could be easily done w/a Ferrari! Mayhaps we will fab up some kits?....................................................................................................... Did we notice someone selling additional external bypass filter kits for Ferrari w/a small micron filter? that's a good idea too ! Many trucks use something similar for radiator fluid, transmissions and power steering too !...........................kit w/a electric solenoid - need the lines and fittings to install on a ferrari ! ( and fit/ use a classier switch eh ? ) LOL[​IMG][​IMG]
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    When I was speaking to the developer of this system, his contention was that nearly all OEM oil filters are far too coarse in their filtering capability.

    As I recall, he noted that the stock filters are good to strain the oil down to maybe something like 40 microns. His system uses a smaller auxiliary filter which is good to 5 microns or so (Note: Both "micron" numbers are simply from my memory - his website at the links posted earlier can confirm these exact values, if I happen to be off).

    His "invention" super-strains a small portion of the circulating oil, with the claim that, over time, all of the oil would thus be "super-scrubbed" and free of floating contaminates.

    His is the first claim that I have heard such that Ferrari engines suffer bearing wear when only the "normal" filters are used.

    Thus my solicitation for other opinions on the claimed virtues of the system.

    Thanks - DM
     
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    Newman should know if the Ferrari's suffer from dirty oil caused by filtration.
     
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    from my experience as a mechanic, the fine micron bypass filtration would not hurt and could help. However, most damage is caused by conditions upon startup IMHO ( when the engine is sort of "dry"hence why I suggested the Morosso oil accumulator !) it would also be invaluable in maintaining pressure and flow during extreme high G maneuvers or a serious leak! frankly, it would be one of my first mods/ adds to my F430 unless there is some compelling reason not to ! regards, Neil
     

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