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  1. 4REphotographer

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    #1 4REphotographer, Oct 19, 2012
    Whats the best out there now? I've gotten away from photography lately and I just don't see the need to have the gear I do and I'd rather sell it now than let the body depreciate more. I'm looking for quality first of all, need a wide lens on it, good colors. Low light performance isn't as big of a deal. RAW is a must but I figure they all have that.

    *I realize I've criticized these cameras in the past, but I've started to come around based on the quality I've been seeing.
     
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    #2 alfas, Oct 19, 2012
    budget???
     
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    #3 4REphotographer, Oct 19, 2012
    Don't really have one, maybe a grand or so.
     
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    #4 photonut, Oct 19, 2012
    while not exactly "micro", the sony nex-7 will give you the best bang for the buck.
     
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    #5 4REphotographer, Oct 20, 2012
    I think I may be leaning toward the Nikon J1, that 10mm pancake is tempting. Anyone have one?
     
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    #6 alfas, Oct 20, 2012
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    10mm pancake is a 27mm equivalent = not wide and standard focal length kit lens for the others.

    I'd go Olympus EM-5, better selection of lenses available than nex and the rest and a bit better than NEX in IQ at low ISO, same price as NEX 7 but a bit more than your $1k budget at $1300 which is a match for nex7 ..
     
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    #8 4REphotographer, Oct 30, 2012
    I'm impressed, though looking at the comparison I had no idea the G1X had such a large sensor. I do like the compactness of the Sony though.

    I haven't paid any attention to anything but DSLRs and I'm really blown away by the IQ these things are putting out.
     
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    #9 photonut, Oct 30, 2012
    i agree.
    all else being equal, sensor size is the most important factor in choosing a digital camera.
     
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    #10 4REphotographer, Oct 30, 2012
    Agreed, but I also think you can offset some that on the compactness. Being able to put that Sony in my pocket vs 4/3rds with the lens sticking out adds a lot of value, at least for me. If I have to carry something with lens and all I might as well just have kept my DSLR.
     
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    #11 photonut, Oct 30, 2012
    i tested the sony rx-100 a few days ago.
    i agree, it is very impressive for a pocket camera.
     
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    #12 4REphotographer, Oct 30, 2012
    That one may get some serious consideration, though I'm not paying $650 for it, maybe when I can pick one up used or find a good deal on one.
     
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    #13 photonut, Oct 31, 2012
    i expect the price should drop by this january.
    not many in the used market yet.
     
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    #14 msdesignltd, Nov 1, 2012
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    as far as compactness to picture quality ratio is concerned...
    I love this set up..

    Panasonic GX1 with olympus 12mm 2.0 lens...I can still squeeze it in my pocket, and its 18mp sensor does a great all round job.
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    #15 msdesignltd, Nov 1, 2012
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    Heres my next size up in compact..cannot fit in pocket but not so big as to be a bummer to carry...

    Panasonic GH2 with Leica 25mm 1.4

    Both really fun top quality set ups...
    Movies with this set up are Broadcast quality

    If I were to do it again now...surely Sony NEX 7 with 25mm 2.0 zeiss lens
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    #16 4REphotographer, Nov 1, 2012
    What's the crop factor on these?
     
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    #17 msdesignltd, Nov 1, 2012
    Think, pretty sure its 2
    12mm is actually 24..
    25 is 50
     
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    #18 alfas, Nov 1, 2012
    it is 2x and there is a m4/3rds 25mm version of that lens that is a match for perfomance while shedding size and weight...
     
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    #19 4REphotographer, Nov 1, 2012
    The RX100 sure seems hard to beat though. Rated at better image quality (despite the smaller sensor) and it's much more compact. The problem I have with the four thirds is for the majority of lenses the package is big enough that I might as well still be carrying around a DSLR.

    http://snapsort.com/compare/Panasonic-GX1-vs-Sony-Cybershot-DSC-RX100
     
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    #20 msdesignltd, Nov 1, 2012
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    100% OF CAMPACT interchangeable lens cameras come with a disposable lens...meaning if you look at the price dif between the body only and the stock lens included , its usually $100.00 to $150.00 more..
    what does that say...

    It says its a whole new ball game if you add a quality lens in the mix..

    The Olympus lens that I have on the GX1 is a game changer..

    A fixed lens camera will Never compare..
     
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    #25 msdesignltd, Nov 5, 2012
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    I was in Best Buy this weekend..handled the RX100..actually quite nice small package..
    at 20 MP it should be a winner..A bit $$$$$ much for what it is though..
    Then I got the new What Digital camera mag....and I see there is an RX1 on the way..
    24 mp full size sensor in similar size RX100 body...


    http://www.dpreview.com/previews/sony-cybershot-dsc-rx1

    http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?Ntt=sony+dsc-rx1&N=0&InitialSearch=yes&sts=ta
    Expected 1 week B4 Christmas...Boy was that Planned!

    The War is back on! Sony is pushing for World Domination!
     
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