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Discussion in 'American Muscle' started by darkkaangel, Jul 30, 2017.
good job you. I predicted 2 cars with the me being over 100k. wrong
And I said that TheMayor would order one. I'm right even if he hasn't placed the order yet.
I was going to quote some of your posts from earlier in the thread and give you credit for being spot on!
Conversely, there are plenty of guys (thankfully) that were way off.
You know what I don't get? I may be wrong on this but I never saw any of the European press at the reveal nor do I see them as bowled over excited as we Americans (and our automotive publications) are about this car. You would think they'd have a lot to say on the subject... The Yanks making a cheap mid-engine car... And pull it off.
Wonder why that is.
Yep... already put down a deposit for a 2020 Convertible. My guess is about August next year.
I admit I was very wrong. (Insert sound of eating tasty crow)
Probably not the correct C8 thread but I'm driving up from Tucson to Phoenix tomorrow. There just happens to be the C8 tour going on at Midway Chevy. Going to stop by the dealership to check it out. Have to be to the airport by 1100 so don't have a lot of time but I figure why not take a look.
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Not yet, hurry up I have a plane to catch!
I was wrong on the price as well. Will be interesting how things shake out and what the platform will ultimately become.
They really are squeezing every last drop of anticipation blood out of folks who just want to see it in person. I've given up trying to find a viewing site. Will now just wait for the hundreds to take to the streets of Long Island. Should be around Nov/Dec I'm sure.
Motor Trend has their first test of the C8 up. https://www.motortrend.com/cars/chevrolet/corvette/2020/2020-chevrolet-corvette-stingray-c8-first-test-review/
looks like its better on the street than track where it understeers and has brakes difficult to modulate at the limit. but its comfortable, well built, and looks good which is all you need in base model. the track versions will have those issues fixed, im sure
Road and Track has an article up too:
Both reviews note the understeer and the brakes, but they have differing views on the dual clutch.
Ferrari and McLaren have nothing to worry about. Its clear GM built a GT, not a sports car.
I wanted a GT not a track monster but some will be disappointed.
Anyone who wonders what a sports car is supposed to feel like, drive an Alfa 4c.
Corvette, in midengine form, is comfy, civilized supercar
Car and Driver tested a C8 Z51 and a C7 Z51 at Grattan, and the C8 was 0.9 seconds faster around the track. They said that it was an easier car to drive fast, which is nice to read after reading the gripes about the understeer and the brakes.
forget about track reviews until you have the grandsport or z06. this is the street version. just like no one gets worked up about 911 targa on track
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Basically compares to a F458 and F488. Slightly faster 0 to 60 and slightly slower in the quarter mile. Still deciding if the C8 is in my future, but if I do decide to pull the trigger, it will be for the Z06 - spider version.
Looking at the reviews and my own views having sat in one, I think GM has built something really "American". I don't mean that in negative way. Its just different than European or Japanese way.
We take a steak and put catsup on it. The Europeans would put butter. Europeans will take water, flour and butter and make a flaky croissant for breakfast. Americans will put hole in it, deep fry it, and slather it with icing can call it a donut. You get the idea. Now, I actually like donuts and I like A1 sauce on steak but I'm an American who happens to appreciate also the refinements on the other sides of the ocean too.
The C8 is a bit like that. The kinda silly macho "jet fighter" cockpit, the giant wing on the back (that you can even order BIGGER), the big thumping torquey V8, and a strong emphasis on 0-60 times and daily driving over handling, rawness and steering and brake feedback. Its tuned so the average guy won't spin coming out of every Cars and Coffee show (or perhaps GM was worried about another "Corvair" episode"?)
Its a fine car for the price. But its really intended for the American way of driving. Its going to be a hell of a lot of fun but Ferrari, Lambo, McLaren and Porsche are not quaking in their boots.
If the BASE car is pulling an 11.1 1/4 mile at 123, just think of the Z06. 10.5 quarter and 1.1 G on the skid. Finally be able to put the power down. And if it’s NA? And add to that the C8R looks incredible so it may hopefully carry over some of the styling cues. Oh man. I cannot wait!
Even if the car were tuned without understeer, I don’t think Ferrari et al would be quaking in their boots. It’s still a Corvette, and that’s not an insult, it’s a different market. Sure, they’ll steal some potential buyers, but my mind still goes back to the bell curve.
Not at all shocked at the understeer. I’m more surprised the major car media outlets seemed surprised. We’re a ridiculously litigious society, and a mid-engined car with this kind of power is a disaster in the making.
Did everyone forget the Toyota MR2 SW20???
What happened w mr2? Had 150 to 200 hp iirc.
Anyway c8 isnt on ferrari radar (yet) but it will take from used exotics like 360, 430, 458, gallardo. And new cars like cayman, 911, nsx, r8, 570. Esp the coming top dog versions
God bless America!
Yota had to change the wheel sizes to keep people from wrapping themselves around solid objects. Original 91's are dangerous, the suspension was updated in 93 and tweaked in 95.
thats crazy people were getting in trouble with less than 200 hp regardless where engine is. whats changed that cars can have 1000 hp now and be ok? hard to believe even with modern tires, tc/esc, etc