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  1. jimmyb

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    I hate to be THAT guy, but if that spoiler (the one on the camo car) is standard on the C8, I will NOT buy the car.
    I didn't buy Z51 package on my Stingray because of it's spoiler and it's about 1000% better looking than that abomination (I asked if they would make me a Z51 convertible and leave off the spoiler....that answer was NO).
     
  2. jimmyb

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    My example.... Image Unavailable, Please Login
    of the small lip spoiler (rear).
    I think car companies get too carried away with all add on stuff. The Stingray (IMO) is very nice design, once you start tacking on all these plastic spoilers/air dams/spats....it just looks silly. I toyed with getting a C7 GS when they came out, I just could not stand the looks.

    Also, to confirm I'm not a total poser....
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  3. bitzman

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    Here's some pro and cons regarding the upcoming mid-engine Corvette. Love to hear contrary opinions

    WHY MID-ENGINED?

    PRO: Because mid-engined cars put the engine between the axles ,so they have a lower polar moment of inertia, thus are not so tail happy as say, a rear engine Porsche 911 , and turn-in and corner holding capabilities would surpass where they can go with front engined.

    CON But the downside is less luggage room, worse visibility (could be cured with onboard rear view cameras) and limited seating room, a lot of 6 foot plus guys can hardly fit in a Ferrari.

    PRO: A fill size mid-engine car not a weenie mobile like the Fiero

    SEE THROUGH ENGINE LID

    PRO You can show off the engine to the rubes every time you stop without having to lift the lid. Either on the cover itself or adjacent to it are some cooling slots to let hot air escape.

    NO CON

    REAR SPOILER
    CON Some spy shots show cheap tacked-on spoiler. Reakky degrades the car as boy racer
    PRO To get 150 lb. on the rear whee;s is orth the jibes

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    ELECTRONIC MANUAL

    PRO R & T has the theory that has it’s a clutch-by-wire system that means they can throw out the the traditional hydraulic master- and slave-cylinder replacing it with an electronic actuator in the transmission triggered by a sensor on the clutch pedal. This system would make for a much simpler clutch actuation system, which would certainly be helpful in a mid-engine car with the transmission at the rear. “
    CON Forget it, Manual trans are drying

    PRICING

    PRO ON 70K PRICE For one thing it will have to cost a minimum of $70,000 , at least $16,000 more than the starting MSRP of the current C7. More profitable for the dealers than any car in GM history

    CON That price will rule out of a lot of buyers, cutting the Corvette market down if that’s the only model available, no more front engine ones.

    PRO, on the plus side, it would sock it to Porsche because that’s in 718 Cayman S territory. And $70,000 would be hundreds of thousands cheaper than the current Ferrari base mid-engine car and yet, in actual street use, it will be competitive on speed.

    PRO ON 150K PRICE Even if the price is the also oft-predicted $150,000, it will knock a big hole in the Ford GT bragging rights. The Ford GT cost over $400,000 , is limited on who they will sell to, and only has a V6. . I personally don’t mind if they go for the high price because it’s still lower than the Ferrari, and a $150,000 pricetag would make for a public perception of the car as the quality of the Audi R8 cabriolet and other mid-engine foreign cars.

    CON This price would drop overboard the middle class blokes who supported the Corvette in the past

    PRO I say, if that happens, so be it , because there is a competitive world out there and we can’t keep building old-style stuff for the old type of Corvette customer of the '60s.70.s,80s, etc. We have to build the future to be respected in the automobile world. And $150,000 isn’t that much when a two bedroom house in an LA suburb cost three times that. (To show you one market the average income of the 14,000 dwellers of Malibu is $200,000)

    PRO hybrid

    Bob Lutz was quoted in the Detroit News in 2016 speculating that the mid-engine Corvette could have a small battery and electric motor to decrease fuel consumption and enable all-wheel-drive. Technically, an electric motor driving the front wheels, (and the ability to shut off the internal (and infernal) combustion engine and cruise about the city in electric drive) qualifies the car as a hybrid and Corvette owners would thus be qualified to barrel along in the high occupancy lane as a single occupant along with the Prius and other electrics.

    CON The go-fast boys will say adding an electric motor is *****-fying the car.
     
  4. jm2

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  6. anunakki

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    I hate to be so judgie but...man that side intake...
     
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  7. TheMayor

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    Interesting the conversation on Manuals going away. The answer was "Meh!" Something like: The buyers are all in their 60's and they're dying off. Time for a new generation.
     
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  8. TheMayor

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    It looks like a 36o with sharper creases and something crazy glued to the side.
     
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  9. JV's89

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    Wouldn't be quite as bad if it were the same color as the rest of the car.

    I had the same opinion about the c7's various carbon flash trim pieces. Much more subtle on a black car.
     
  10. energy88

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    or maybe they're saving it for a future iteration? ;)
     
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  12. TheMayor

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    I'm sorry but Zora is a terrible name.
     
  13. Tenney

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    How 'bout Arkus?
     
  14. darkkaangel

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    I think Zora is a great name and honors the man who pretty much is the father of the corvette, no different then say Enzo which I think is a great name as well.
     
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  15. TheMayor

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    Zora was not Enzo. Almost one knows who this guy was -- or cares today. Enzo would have been a terrible name if no one knew who he was.

    People know Zorba the Greek more!
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  16. darkkaangel

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    I think your mistaken, anyone who is into corvettes at all knows who Zora is/was and to say almost know knows him is simply untrue.
    He is not as well known/famous as Enzo but he is pretty well known in the corvette world and to name a car after him makes total sense in my opinion.
    I mean come on.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zora_Arkus-Duntov
     
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  17. Jo Sta7

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    Zora is a fine name. Also, car manufacturers name cars after people ALL that time that are mostly or completely irrelevant. Names like Jesko (CVKs dad) BC (bought first Zonda) Elise (named after a granddaughter of the chairman of lotus at the time), Dino (we know here but I’m assuming 90+% of people don’t), Veyron, Chiron, and the list goes on and on.

    Zora was large in corvette history. He championed mid engine. If the end product is good then non corvette people will learn his name and be perfect fine with it....
     
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  18. energy88

    energy88 Two Time F1 World Champ
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    One possible bad associated connotation with Zora or Zorba: the rear end likes to "dance."
     
  19. Stentboy

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    I like it, but I would like it more if the side intake thing was body color or cleared carbon fiber.
     
  20. joker57676

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    I think you are overestimating the number of Corvette buyers who know Corvette history. I'd venture to say a very strong majority of Corvette owners couldn't care less about the car's history.
     
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  21. TheMayor

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    Honestly most don't know the technical difference between the C5 and C7 if y0u asked them.

    Ummm.. Front engine, V8, 2 seater and... has a radio! :)


    Chevy says it is doing this to attract new, younger customers who would be attracted to a Porsche, Audi or BMW. Those people don't know bupkis about what happened in 1961. If fact, referencing an unknown engineer from that period actually makes it look like the old geezers still pull the strings.
     

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