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Mike Sheehan

Discussion in 'Vintage (thru 365 GTC4)' started by Texas Forever, May 29, 2024.

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  1. rob lay

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    Sounds like you prefer to wear blinders and you are also the same that gets taken by the Donnies etc. Nothing against you, I respect you don't want to follow along the "drama", but what you lose out on is the information to make good decisions who you do business with. I think owners were at more risk in years past before we had open discussions like this.
     
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  2. tomgt

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  3. Rifledriver

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    In many ways the open discussions are a disservice. Many things that should be said and are not said because either it could be actionable or people are just reluctant to say in the open whats on their mind. There have been emails going all over the North American Ferrari business today that are a great deal more insightful and real than whats being said here. A lot of things being glossed over here.
     
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  4. rob lay

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    Technically I don't think there is any more liability either place. Unfortunately we've had so many cases over the history of FerrariChat users were reluctant to post, then more users got taken.
     
  5. ArtS

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    I am on the mailing list. I got the MS email and scanned it (may have gotten the other one but didn't pay attention). Given that Vintage is a very small world and MS is known it's appropriate content, IMO. It's not dirt being thrown on them by others - they each gave a heads-up. If I was selling, this would be important to know.

    Also, why did you take the time to read/respond with a statement if its so boring? If you are right and it's a boring nothing, it will naturally flush away soon enough.

    Regards,

    Art S.
     
  6. Texas Forever

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    One of my greatest compliments is to call someone, "interesting." Life is a journey to a known destination, so why be boring? Ferrari people are interesting people. I can't say the same for pbug people.
     
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  8. 375+

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    I have respect for those who acknowledge the culture and legacy of Ferrari(not the status, glamor and glitz) and that of Porsche. They are the two greatest constructors of post war GT cars. Period.
     
  9. 365GTC/4

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    Those were the days alright. The MM, the Targa, Le Mans, Sebring, Daytona, The Ring, Spa, etc were incredible. Ding dong battles. But eventually they became too dangerous with too many deaths, both drivers and spectators, and it all became very different, never to return. We were just lucky to witness it, and live to tell the tall tales.
     
  10. Sunshine1

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    His business had a successful youtube channel, “Ferraris Online” that I regularly watched (years with great videos featuring his daughter presenting various cars). Then several months ago, she replaced it with a new youtube channel (Next Generation Classics): she has posted nothing in 2 months + few subscribers compared to the previous channel. The information in the email you received explains why.
     
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    Stuttgart piggies.
     
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  12. Bowzer

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    Shame for this to happen to a respected man and father. Colleen could have easily ridden the wave Mike has created. But youth has a habit of wanting to do it better and faster. Best of luck to both but a bit of respect would be always be appreciated between sunset and sunrise.
     
  13. 19633500GT

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    Is there a way to easily verify a business holds (or doesn't) a CA automotive dealers license?

    Seems the coup went back well into 2023!

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  14. Rifledriver

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    Its on the state web site.
     
  15. ag512bbi

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    Their are 2 sides to every story. I haven't heard either. It's family drama. When buying a car, I buy from the source that has the right car for the right price.
     
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  16. TTR

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    While I understand a lot of people enjoy living vicariously through the drama, gossip, rumors, etc of others by any means possible (why else would facebooks, youtubes, tictocs & forums like this be so popular ?), I do find it incomprehensible* to see such idiocracy permeating/polluting this “Vintage Ferrari” section (And yes, we can all draw parallels to justify any topic being related to “Vintage Ferraris” if we so choose to).

    Besides, given M.S.’s opinion (at least told by him to me) of forums like this and discussions in them, I wonder how many here see the irony in all this handwringing/gossiping.
    And yes, I too have been on “that” mailing list for 15-20 years and even met the man behind it in person more than once.

    As for “prefer to wear blinders” or “taken by Donnies, etc”, having been involved with the vintage car world on two continents over 4 decades, nearly 40 years of it professionally and pretty much full-time, I’ve encountered more questionable, shady & unscrupulous individuals in it than I care to remember and quite sure never having worn any “blinders”** or “been taken by” anyone***.

    I even recall having met this “Donnie” character**** briefly at some event years ago, but other than that, haven’t had personal or professional experiences with him or his skills, whatever they may be.

    OTOH, over the decades, I’ve encountered (& collected/recorded evidence of) numerous less than acceptable to horrifying repairs/restorations/services by several highly regarded professionals/shops, including some who contribute or have contributed here. Some have even managed to inadvertently/unknowingly(?) incriminate themselves by posting about their work, but I’m not going to air that dirty laundry publicly (although it would probably make an interesting documentary/tell-all book or something). Heck, just in last few weeks I’ve been neck deep correcting/repairing some far less than appropriately performed repairs/services by couple of highly regarded/well known shops and were I to reveal details, including names, most here would likely be utterly shocked.

    *If I’ve said or made it seem I find these types of topics “boring” (or stupid), it’s probably more about finding it incomprehensible that so many people we don’t usually even see contributing anything, let alone worthwhile, to any actual “Vintage Ferrari” related topics are so quick to jump onboard when someone else’s “personal” drama is expressed/shared here (or anywhere), leading one to assume they must have a pretty boring lives.
    I also wonder how many of these same individuals would enjoy seeing their personal or family issues/problems dragged in to public forums and debated/discussed by random strangers ?

    ** If anything, I’ve tried to help others see, even here, including those who choose to believe and celebrate any & all abnormally/unexpectedly high results some auction houses claim/report , but…
    I mean talk about “prefer to wear blinders”.

    ***I’ve also always believed anyone “getting taken” in any business transaction just didn’t conduct their due diligence. Nothing more, nothing less. Sure we all feel sorry for them, but in the end, it was their choice.

    **** IIRC and while it doesn’t make any difference to me, but in “his” dedicated thread there were references to “Donnie Callaway” & (in some posted legal documents ?) “Don Calloway”, which made me wonder whether they’re even same individual and whether anyone else even noticed this discrepancy.
     
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  17. Timmmmmmmmmmy

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    Succession planning is a truly important part of running any successful business. I have worked with multiple SMEs and one family owned corporation (100+ staff). The corporation had a founder then in his late 70s, appointed daughter CEO and stepped away from day to day running of the firm, ultimately that didn't last long and he couldn't resist meddling, eventually having to be trespassed from the business he owned. To say that f&*(ed the family relationships and then the business itself is to put it mildly. The TV series Succession is itself just a variation on that lesson in how (not?) to plan it. Another client of mine pointed out that either one of the family wanted to take over and that would be contractually negotiated, or she would sell it and cash out the equity. Then look at the Bardinon families decade plus battle over their fathers assets or even this issue. The answers all so simple and yet when ego's are involved, the questions get so loaded.
     
  18. swift53

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    Gents, please fill in the blanks.

    My ..... and I, do not work together anymore.
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    Wash your undergarments at home. Show some distinction. :rolleyes:
     
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  19. Texas Forever

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    This is not the first time something like this has happened. My guess is it will not be the last.
     
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  20. DanNE

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    I missed all this, what happened to carbon?
     
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    I know what you mean...
    There is one question I want to ask, but I feel I'd be laughed off the website.
     
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    As you may know, I’ve embarked on an exciting new journey and am thrilled to announce the launch of my new company: Next Generation Classics



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  23. ArtS

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    Got and deleted that email this morning.
     
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  24. swift53

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    #49 swift53, Jul 16, 2024
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    I did not get one, yet deleted it just as well :rolleyes:

    PS. Doesn't Mr. Sheehan post on F-chat?
     
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  25. 365GTC/4

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    To be clear, I have never had any contact with Colleen. So if I receive an email from her, which I have, and in fact received another one today, then she got my address from some other data base. Maybe the Ferraris Online data base?
     

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