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Miles Davis to enter Rock Hall-WTF?

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  1. BigAl

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    Miles Davis in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Rock and Roll...Miles Davis...huh?
     
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    Hey It's Cleveland! WTF do they know?????
     
  3. BigAl

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    LOL!
     
  4. matteo

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    Don't they have a Jazz section?

    You don't like Miles? no OO-RAY there buddy.
     
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    Like I said, It's Cleveland!
     
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    Hey! There are A LOT of lakes! :D
     
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    don't know, if they do then that makes sense.

    Don't get me wrong, I'm a huge Miles fan...well at least his 50s material, his 60s improv stuff never did anything for me. It just seems a stretch associating Miles with R&R....
     
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    You are correct Sir!! And Cleveland happens to be near one of them... :)



    PS - Check your email, sent ya a link this morning!
     
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    Ok then....no blanket party for you ;)

    OO-RAH!
     
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    Try again. Nothing there!
     
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    try again, just resent!!!



    HIJACK OFF!
     
  13. WILLIAM H

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    Well Rock is based on Jazz & Blues so there is some connection.

    Although Miles never actually played Rock, that I know of
     
  14. artn

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    Miles is credited for "starting" the whole Jazz+Rock "Fusion" thing. Although I don't find it very interesting, albums of his from this era like "*****es brew" were considered to be very influential amongst the rock crowd and was rather popular (one of his best selling albums ever, IIRC?).

    I suppose this is fitting how Miles is (rightfully) credited for being ahead of the curve in being a major part of most of the new major changes/evolution in Jazz from the 50's on forward.

    With this new sound, I also recall reading that Miles was active in playing at places like fillmore sharing the stage with the big rock acts of the day (in the 70's).


    (this content biased, as I am a straight ahead bebop kind of guy....)
     
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    "That's the Bible, man. That's the way people felt about Kind of Blue. It essentially became the Bible about 6 months after it came out."

    - Donald ***en, Steely Dan (1999)

    Miles was particularly inspirational to Duane Allman. As above, here's a comment from him regarding Kind of Blue

    "That kind of playing [his own work with the Allman Brothers] comes from Miles and Coltrane, and particularly Kind of Blue. I've listened to that album so many times for the past couple of years, I haven't hardly listened to anything else.

    Hell - just open up your CD case, then flip the Kind of Blue booklet right to the middle - read Robert Palmer's interview with Duane.

    Elsewhere Duane stated:

    "Miles Davis does the best job, to me, of portraying the innermost, subtlest, softest feelings in the human psyche. He does it beautifully. John Coltrane, probably one of the finest, most accomplished tenor players, took his music farther than anybody I believe I ever heard."

    Lastly - "In Memory of Elizabeth Reed," was the Allman's instrumental tribute to Miles Davis.
     
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    wow, interesting, thnx for posting Tom.
     
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    Considering they didn't want to vote Black Sabbath in, is this really a surprise?
     
  18. You might have seen it on ebay, there was a white Testarossa with a red interior that was claimed to have been his car. It has been on ebay several times in the last 3 or so years.
     
  19. It was ebay item# 4587689092
     
  20. life@8500

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    miles, later on in his career was planning a gig with jimi hendrix......man that would have been a mother f**ker. (as miles was wont to swear)

    if i had a choice of a single disc for my "stranded on a desert island" scenario it would be kind of blue.........2nd choice would be 58 miles.
     
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    i know some of us have read this a number of times but anyway....here are the liner notes for KofB.

    "There is a Japanese visual art in which the artist is forced to be spontaneous. He must paint on a thin stretched parchment with a special brush and black water paint in such a way that an unnatural or interrupted stroke will destroy the line or break through the parchment. Erasures or changes are impossible. These artists must practice a particular discipline, that of allowing the idea to express itself in communication with their hands in such a direct way that deliberation cannot interfere.

    The resulting pictures lack the complex composition and textures of ordinary painting, but it is said that those who see well find something captured that escapes explanation.

    This conviction that direct deed is the most meaningful reflections, I believe, has prompted the evolution of the extremely severe and unique disciplines of the jazz or improvising musician.

    Group improvisation is a further challenge. Aside from the weighty technical problem of collective coherent thinking, there is the very human, even social need for sympathy from all members to bend for the common result. This most difficult problem, I think, is beautifully met and solved on this recording.

    As the painter needs his framework of parchment, the improvising musical group needs its framework in time,. Miles Davis presents here frameworks which are exquisite in their simplicity and yet contain all that is necessary to stimulate performance with sure reference to the primary conception.

    Miles conceived these settings only hours before the recording dates and arrived with sketches which indicated to the group what was to be played. Therefore, you will hear something close to pure spontaneity in these performances. The group had never played these pieces prior to the recordings and I think without exception the first complete performance of each was a "take."

    --- Bill Evans
     
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    Miles was like the 'fly yellow' car--you either loved or hated it.
    That being said, he was a genius, and changed modern music.
    But he does NOT belong in the R&R 'hall of fame'.
    It is almost like putting a RR Phantom in the 'Enzo' catagory--two different things, equally good.
    Miles is pissed at this.
    Keith
     
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    Sabbath? Pistols? I'm anxious to see when KISS get inducted. That should be amusing!!
     
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    What really cracks me up is that they have the induction ceremonies in New York City. They had to throw the city of Cleveland a pity f*ck by letting them have some stupid tourist trap of their own, and the city of Cleveland doesn't have the balls to say "If you don't show, you don't get in." Because they know the answer to that (deceased excepted). So it's kind of like Cleveland's the loser who buys the girl dinner and a movie, then she goes and screws the cool fun guy.
     

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