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  1. Veedub00

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    Never saw white smoke. No oil in the water. Oil reservoir was a overfilled. I have been adding coolant recently.
     
  4. turbo-joe

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    good sign, so I think no headgasket


    also good sign, so again no headgasket because the oilpressure is higher than the water pressure

    bad sign, water is going into the oil

    also bad sign that water is going away into the oil because of overfilled oil reservoir

    I would say leaking water pump - or somewhere a crack in the block or in the heads:(
     
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    good to see this damaged seal. so you may be sure 99 % that the water was coming from this seal into the oil. so no worry about more
    1 or 2 piece seal? I would take what you have and will match
     
  9. clinton

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    It looks like you have a bad water pump problem.
    Did you check the bearing behind the oil seal? Looking at the oil seal, water has been seeping into places it's not supposed to be. I would assume the bearing behind the oil seal is bad.
    Unless the water pump is assembled correctly, water will seep into the wrong areas, destroying the oil seal, bearing and into the crankcase.

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  10. Veedub00

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    how do I check the bearing?
     
  11. vincenzo

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    A leaking water pump seal dumps fluid onto the ground by way of the weep hole.

    The ONLY way anti-freeze can be forced towards the oil seal is IF the weep hole is plugged off. Check your weep hole. If it is not plugged off, the coolant is entering the oil at a different location.

    ‘IF’ the water pump seal is leaking, and ‘IF’ the weep hole is seriously plugged, and ‘IF’ the oil seal is bad, THEN the anti-freeze may get into the oil system.

    A three ‘IF’ sequence is pretty unlikely.
     
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    can i remove that bearing through the front?
     
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    Is the weep hole plugged up with debris?
     
  16. clinton

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    It's very difficult, is it bad?

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    What happened to the shaft? What does the sleeve look like?


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  18. Veedub00

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    yeah it looked like it was. I poked a pipe cleaner through it and it took a few thrusts to get it through the top.
     
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    It doesn't look bad, but if I have to split the powerpack then I think I'll just leave it there.

    I think I'll try replacing the seals and pressure test the system. I pressure tested the system when I pulled the pack and it didn't hold pressure very well. Pumped to 10 psi and it didn't hold much. How much psi is the system regularly?
     
  20. clinton

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    I think the system will go up to 16 psi or 1.1 bar.
    If the balls in the bearing are anything but shiny sliver or if you see any rust, I would change it. You still have not found the problem. What about the sleeve?

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    Wow, this is as bad as it gets.
     
  22. Newman

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    If you split the engine from the box you can replace the inner bearing as well, probably the chain tensioner and chain because they stretch. Its not hard to take the engine off the box. Ive also seen those front engine covers leak where they meet the block.
     
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    Hey James,
    I've got a water pump seal kit you can use if the engine number is before 20820.
    JM
     
  24. Veedub00

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    Thanks! I got one coming in the mail today. unfortunately. But who knows if the seal is the right one. Let me get back to you.
     
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    water pump seal
    for sure
    its a TR !
     

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