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Mille Miglia 2013

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  1. Cris Bertschi

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    #101 Cris Bertschi, May 20, 2013
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    Here is a picture of Don Rose and myself at the finish in Brescia.
    Not a Ferrari this time, sorry.
    We had a great time with this DB2/4 Mark II.

    The organization showed some important flaws but the event is so great that the memories are always fantastic!
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  2. Ferri

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  3. deichenb

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    Thank you, Onno. An absolutely epic event.
     
  4. 275gtb6c

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    When I participated the MM it was organised by MAC, so how was the new organisation? I noticed more cars were allowed any comments on this?

    The weather was not helping at the start but during the next two days is was ok?

    Ciao
    Oscar
     
  5. Yaku

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    Cannot say anything about the organisation as I did not participate, but weather wise it was awful. Still, it didn't ruin spirits and it brought together a passionate crowd (it was not too busy in Brescia).

    Also, I tried posting several pictures that I made at the Mille Miglia to this thread but I do not see them anywhere. Why is this?
     
  6. mseals

    mseals Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Yaku,

    All initial posts are put in a moderation que until reviewed by a moderator.

    Your posts have been approved, and are now posted.

    Mike
     
  7. tritone

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    Thanks for the pix Yaku!
     
  8. Daytonafan

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    Great pics thanks for posting
     
  9. KenGoldman

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    Does any firm do a video of the MM--

    Would be interested in this

    Ken Goldman
     
  10. omd78

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  11. The Red Baron

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    Ok so another Mille miglia done and dusted. As with evrything one does in life there are the good parts and the bad. The same applied here.
    Most of the information about the event was listed on the web site however finding it was no user friendly and as a result made the phone call to check. Unfortunately there were several versions of what was occurring, depending on to whom and when you made that request.The weather was not kind to the organisers. As I was in an open car I can certainly (in hindsight) the men of the original years were tough. By the time we basically got up to start the second morning from Ferrara those guys had finished the event. Absolutely outstanding. Talking about getting up from the hotel was one of the downsides of the event since the hotel was closer to Bologna than Ferrara. Getting there at 0230am was not pleasant. Bologna a place we would ultimately revisit the same day on the back of a transporter for a sort of pit stop due to a carb float problem. However due to the excellent mechanical work provided where on the way to Assisi in a few hours, and caught up with the field.
    Again in Rome we got to a hotel (possibly 1 star) well after 0100am with no information when the pick up was the next morning. Arrival in Brescia was a great feeling and sense of accomplishment.
    The organisers certainly had there hands full but considering it was there first time organising the event overall did a remarkable job. There is always room to learn what the mistakes where and I hope they have listed all of them.
    Would I do it again, well in an open car it was certainly different than in a berlinetta. noticed two female teams in open cars and take this moment to say to them well done. It is an event that you should try at least once in your life as all those who on FerrariChat can testify too. The experience will remain with you for a life time.
     
  12. JazzyO

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    Absolutely. In my case, for the right reasons as well as the wrong ones (terminal break down the first morning....).

    But as an aside, I can't fail to notice there was much less attention given to the Mille Miglia on the F-chat forum this year. Far fewer pictures, stories (both of watching and participating). I wonder why. Shame really, it remains a fantastic event.


    Onno
     
  13. ME308

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    great pictures !!

    thank you for sharing
     
  14. peterp

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    Amazing pics!
     
  15. BIRA

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    #118 BIRA, May 26, 2013
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    Sorry again Oscar that we missed your lunch, btw there was like last year a fantastic storm immediately afterwards when we had lunch in San Sepulcro.

    Here are some of the Ferrari pictures, starting by mine that i drove first time since i own it. Did some big work on carburators, valves adjustments, new exhaust line, wheels fully refurbished [read new wires] at Borrani, would not take a risk there, brakes fully re done, new tires -period correct Pirelli..driving nicely , of course much softer ride than SWB, looking more like Lusso. Nice torque though compared to SWB and very good brakes.

    then pictures of Ferrari entrants to MM, primarily at scrutineering and then in Brescia in the afternoon. MM actual pictures in separate emails.
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  16. ross

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    i see that they must have run the ferrari tribute accompaniment rally again....i had thought the new organizer did not want to allow it...
    if thats the case, i may join again next year.
     
  17. BIRA

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    #120 BIRA, May 26, 2013
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    I think one reason is the communication of the organizing group, the Automobile Club of Brescia is certainly less aggressive than MAC was. And also a lot of events are piling up, MM coming jsut after Tour Auto, Villa d'Este this week end , the SPA, the GoodWood etc etc making it very difficult to concentrate on any event.

    Having said that, MM was wonderful, this is my 5th in a row [in 4 different cars..] and the first time in a pre war car, and 3rd time in an open car. Clearly MM has to be enjoyed in an open car, and it is not about the speed but about the journey...so a pre war car, still with enough power,,is the best solution. Specially as we were relatively early, means less traffic jam etc We had time for a nice [even would call it elegant referring to the place and our friends,,well on our side still in darkely ned overalls...] diner in Rome at 9:30pm and if we arrived the next day in Brescia onat 11:30pm this is because we were delayed by a leak in the radiator, that suffered all the potholes and vibrations,,,and we lost all the water..noticed it and we stopped before disaster stroke and an hour later , after a local gave us access to his welding equipement, we were back on the road to Modena! Thank you stranger, you are on the picture overlooking the mechanics! Of course thank you for the support crew too, MM very difficult unlike Tour Auto to do without crew as there is little time to catch up..Although i know Oscar did it with his beloved wife as support crew everytime!!

    All in all, a little bit wetter that usual, but not to the point to make it unbearable,[with years you know which equipment you need to keep you warm and dry in an open car] and very enjoyable. Traffic may be less than usual, but again possibly linked to early departure, for the 3rd time i went up to San Marino, the last 2 times i skipped it otherwise would have fried the clutch as going uphill in massive traffic jam for 6 km is not good for classic cars,,this time we went up at our speed and had to stop no more than once or twice. Even in Futa and Raticosa we were able to keep our speed and go up in 3rd and 4th gear [out of 4, nice torque!].

    For those who asked previously for the unpaved section, this is after Radicofani and before Sienna and it is called Via Eroica, maintained unpaved as it was when used for bicycle races at the beginning of previous century [yes!]. With more rain this year, at lest we avoided the huge amount of dirt!

    so yes will be there next year!
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  18. Yaku

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    #121 Yaku, May 26, 2013
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  19. BIRA

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    #122 BIRA, May 26, 2013
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    Unfortunately there is no younger sister. 815001 was the first of the series of 101 6C 2300MM indentified by its chassis number and continuous history and a one off Touring body , entered by Scuderia Ambrosiana of Giovanni Lurani , for the 1938 Italian racing season with its new rules, for the Sport Nazionale category.

    The car that did not sell in SPA auction (and you can read it in the catalogue description) never started its life with this body but as convertible Touring, delivered to Von Carnap, the Berlin agent , if the ALFA records are correct. And was never raced...When found with whatever body, unlikely though the Touring one, the then owner had 2 cars being built with a copy of the Siluro body...and still has one,, the other was sold and is the one recently offered at auction...the unfortunate thing but certain is that none of the 6C 38 and 39 race cars bodies survived to this date, neither the Siluro ( 38 and 39 season) , nor the Torpedino Brescia, ( 1939'and 1940) nor the Alla spessa.( the bodies of Tripoli Tobruk 1939 in lieu of MM). Nor the one off 1939 berlinetta for Trossi than ran Le Mans .

    And most of the 38/39 race cars where rebodied as touring cars, as the Alfa factory was destroyed and they were producing very few chassis. A lot for the top brass of Mussolini's party. But most of the race cars chassis numbers are well known thanks to Fusi and Anselmi and more recently John de Boer and some others.

    Sorry to post here as this is more an Alfa issue, although there is a link, as cars were prepared in 1938 by Alfa Corse, run by Enzo Ferrari still under contract after he folded the Scuderia Ferrari in the factory team and before he left by the end of the season.
     
  20. ross

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    those alfas blow me away ! i am not much of a pre-war fan, but those cars are gorgeous.
     
  21. Yaku

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    My mistake! Thanks for the short but detailed recap on these Alfa's.
    Wasn't aware that your 6C was so rare.
     

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