hello fc, last night i went to my friends race shop and drove his new project car evo8 rs. this evo is mostly stock except new suspension and ao48 on all corners. it has ecu flash and intake and exhaust system and it made 400awhp(all wheel drive). i was surprised how good these cars are and was wondering if anyone here drove these cars on track before. how are these cars compare to other sports cars. thanks
Hello FerrariF1 First of all, after 300 posts, you should know how to fill out your profile, second of all you should know this is not the appropriate forum for Evo talk. You might want to ask the question in the Cars/Motorcycles forum. But since I have owned/raced/driven Evos 1-9; They are very good on a "low speed" track, they get eaten by the supercars on the higher speed tracks since they pretty much hit a air wall at 160mph. Personally I like to use souped up old Evo´s (Evo 1-3, only sold in Japan), for redlight racing, that´s it.
The Mitsubishi Evolution is considered a great all around car. For the price, you really can't get anything better, unless you look into a Subaru WRX STI. The Evo is a very powerful car, close to 300hp and 300 lbs of torque. It is considered to out-handle the WRX STI. From what I have read and seen the Evolution is a great track car, the handling is amazing for a 4WD $35k car. Many argue whether the STI or the EVO is a better all around car. In conclusion, the Evolution out handles the STI while the STI is a bit faster running the 1/4 mile. Personally, I prefer an STI.
... or perhaps move to Cars ... section. The EVO RS is the "raw" version of the EVO. The plain EVO is the street car. In the case of early EVO8s, it lacks an unlocking center diff, so no handbrake turns without straining the cdiff. The RS strips off weight (and the wing) and has some hardware upgrades (like the cdiff). The expectation is that you'll add your own wing, as the EVO does get a bit light in the back above 90 or so. You also get a somewhat harsher and a massively noiser ride. The MR is the deluxe performance model, with all the bells and whistles. Except in the UK, where the FQ320 and FQ400 models have local market enhancements. If you want to modify the car yourself, go for the RS. If you want the factory top end, go with the MR -- or an FQ in the UK. If you want to drive on the street without losing fillings, the plain EVO will get you through most snowstorms. (Up to about a foot of snow on the road -- after that, you're plowing with the intercooler. Once you block the radiator, it's game over.) Check out http://forums.evolutionm.net/ Keep in mind that the fastest way around a track in an AWD may not be the same as a RWD. Youtube has an interesting comparison between rally drivers and track drivers on a road course in an EVO. The rally drivers were a hair faster, but scrubbed the tires off the car.
What would be the point of taking an Evo out to a High speed track? They certaintly aren't made for high speeds. Evolutions are all low end power, along w/ the WRX STI.
In fact, weren't they conceived and designed as Rally cars? I recall watching some Subaru WRX cars participating in a sanctioned rally held in the Tillamook Forest (Oregon) about five years or so ago: very competent cars on the forest roads. Their dual prowess (off-road / on-road) will by design involve compromise. Cf. to a purpose-built road car such as the 430, and the wonderful usefulness and versatility of these Japanese cars increases. The Japanese offer no storied history or snooty dealers, alas, just world class bang for your buck.
No, but you get near-Ferrari performance for less than one-fifth the price. A Ferrari is nicer looking, more hand-built, fancier, and rarer. Otherwise, they're pretty comparable.
Mitusbishi Evolution's are not Rally cars. Instead, the Subaru WRX STI is considered to be a top notch Rally car. Another reason why I prefer the STI over the Evo.
Intake, Exhaust and tune are not going to get you 400hp at the wheels on an EVO8. Now way, no how. Even at the crank probably not. Yes, I have one. An 05 with the 10.5 hotside and I push about 300bhp at the wheels with similar mods and tuned by IMO the best tuner out there. You'll need at least some big ass cams and meth to get anywhere even close on a stock turbo which just won't make 400hp at the wheels. EVER.
Turbo mills have lousy "low end power". But they are powerful cars at low speed. Given that rally cars are restricted to 2.0L, how is an STi a rally car with a 2.5L engine? And if the EVO isn't a rally car, then why did it completely whup the Scooby the last time they were both in SCCA pro-rally? (Answer: reliability) But those were rally *conversions*. The EVO8 and the STI are both "rally inspired" cars -- meaning that they've boosted up the power and upgraded the suspension. But you're still in the econobox shell. It takes a massive amount of cage reinforcement to turn either of them into a "top notch Rally car". Go to either the evolutionm or nasioc forums and look at some of the accident threads. Neither of these machines are strong enough to rally. For a real homologation machine, you'd have to go back to the ST165 Celica or the Stratos.
I have a Mitsu EVO 9 MR. With only a few mods. and let me tell you this is the car to take to the mountains. But it is no M3 or most def. not a 355.
a full turbo back exaut will give you close to 60hp. on those things. For about $6K you can have them near 500awhp
